Date:         Wed, 30 Apr 1997 21:57:04 -0700
Reply-To:     Don Stanley <don_stanley@IBM.NET>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>
From:         Don Stanley <don_stanley@IBM.NET>
Organization: Don Stanley Consulting Limited
Subject:      Re: I want fsedit back!
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I raised this issue on SAS-L in January. I wasn't particularly complimentary to
SAS
about it. There appear to be bugs galore in viewtable, including some that send
your
whole session into oblivion (under UNIX at least). I got a number of replies
from
people that were just as uncomplimentary to viewtable.
 
SAS Inst stated to me that they built and implemented viewtable so that sites
without
SAS/FSP could have a table driven means of viewing data. Somehow that doesn't
quite
fit in with their urge to sell everyone enterprise licenses with many
products...
 
Personally I think viewtable is the worst enhancement they ever did. If they
really
wanted to acheive the aim they stated above they should have left LIB/DIR as
they were
to fire up FSEDIT/BROWSE/VIEW and come up with another letter for viewtable.
Even
without bugs viewtable would not be near FSP.
 
There doesn't seem much we can do. I just hope that this lack of customer
awareness
isn't going to filter through to other parts of the product.
 
IMO (who needs to be humble) if they really wanted to acheive the aim stated
above
SAS/FSP should be in BASE. It is a vital core part of SAS that becomes almost
impossible to live without. Viewtable is a poor replacement.
 
Meantime you can use the ACCESS window instead of LIB, and the appropriate
letter
beside a dataset name will start FSP procs. I don't recall the letters right
now.
 
Don
 
Paige Miller wrote:
>
> Bruce Bradbury wrote:
> >
> > I've just installed 6.12 (on win95) and I'm not happy!
> >
> > In the past, right clicking on a dataset in the 'Libraries' window would
> > allow me to start up fsedit (if I chose form view).
> >
> > Now, I go into 'Viewtable' when I do this. Viewtable takes forever to load
> > a dataset, makes me run out of memory (I have 32mb), and doesn't display
> > all the variables in the file (in form view).
> >
> > Is there a way to get fsedit back? (I know I can access it from the command
> > line, but accessing from the Libraries window was very convenient).
>
> I was also upset at SAS for making this change in 6.12. It doesn't
> appear that there is any way to get around this at the moment. I
> certainly would write to SAS Institute and complain, maybe it will
> return in future versions.
>
> By the way, has anyone found a use for viewtable yet? Why did SAS invent
> this?
>
> --
> +---------------------------------+------------------------------------+
> | Paige Miller, Eastman Kodak Co. | "Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk"                   |
> | PaigeM@kodak.com                |                  -- Curly Howard   |
> +---------------------------------+------------------------------------+
> | The opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect the         |
> | views of the author nor the views of the Eastman Kodak Company.      |
> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
 
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