Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:18:19 -0800
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Subject: Re: (OT)What other programming languages do you know....
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I always thought McBee Edge-notched cards were pretty cool:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edge-notched_card
"Edge-notched cards, however, were not intended to be read by machines. Instead, they were manipulated by passing one or more slim needles through selected holes in a group of cards. As the needles were lifted, the cards that were notched in the hole positions where the needles were inserted would be left behind as rest of the deck was lifted by the needles. Using two or more needles produced a logical and function. Combining the cards from two different selections produced a logical or. Quite complex manipulations, including sorting were possible using these techniques."
Paul Choate
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Sherman ... set the WYABAC machine for ... 1888
http://www.census.gov/history/www/innovations/technology/the_hollerith_tabulator.html
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Since we are going to reminisce, my first job after high school was wiring
IBM 402 accounting boards. I don't know if that "language" had a name, but
definitely gave one a meaning to "spaghetti" code that one who hadn't
experienced those times simply can't appreciate.
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:24:29 -0500, Burton, John (CONT)
<John.Burton@CAPITALONE.COM> wrote:
>Paul,
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>> Same for Natural. Pretty good on z/OS and can write CLISTs and JCL
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>I'd forgotten about Natual. It's been GT 20 years since I've used that,
but still getr headhunters pestering me with Adabas/Natural contracts.
>It's been ages since I've done CLISTs.
>
>> I can't remember 1/2 of what I have learned about SAS. Thank goodness
for SAS-L and the wiki.
>
>I don't feel so bad, if great minds such as yourself say you don't remember
half of what you learned in SAS.
>
>For "sh**s & grins" I wikied Fortran and found that I had forgotten so much
of that in the 15+ years since I've used it. I did find that it has been
continuously improved over the years, as has SAS, but does appear to be
solely the realm of mathmaticians, engineers and scientists needing the
extreme precision that it is still the leader in.
>
>It appears that a lot of the old warhorses have been on many platforms and
operating systems and have no doubt used a wide variety of databases and
other tyopes of data storage. We could expand this survey to include those
as subsets.
>
>Ray
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>Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:51:14 -0800
>From: "Choate, Paul@DDS" <Paul.Choate@DDS.CA.GOV>
>Subject: Re: What other programming languages do you know....
>
>Taught myself Basic in the late 70s so I could program a Snake game on a
Commodore for fun. Took FORTRAN at Cal Poly & UCD. Kept playing around in
Basic on XTs and whatnot in the 80s. Branched off into stat apps and
learned BMDP & MiniTab while an undergrad.
>
>Didn't know SAS existed until I had left teaching math for research in the
government. Since then I have learned SAS, SQL, some Perl, and some visual
basic. Taught myself HTML in 1994 when www took off. Am doing more with XML
these days.
>
>I can get around a bit in COBOL and UNIX, but don't keep up the practice.
Same for Natural. Pretty good on z/OS and can write CLISTs and JCL and all
that. I know I'm forgetting some, but I can't remember 1/2 of what I have
learned about SAS. Thank goodness for SAS-L and the wiki.
>
>I use SAS for analysis and reporting for the government. We have gajillions
of large messy data systems and SAS is a great tool for slogging through all
the mud looking for diamonds and such.
>
>Paul Choate
>DDS Data Extraction
>(916) 654-2160
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