Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:06:03 EDT
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Thanks Harry,
I also think we have both Tellin species here. I kept looking for another
species because I felt there were two species, but no one book that I saw
listed more than one species. To my eye, it appears that the true T. listeri
has a more truncated posterior. Does that sound right? I will be accessing
these papers. I spent almost all day on the net trying to track these
down. What other search engine is out there besides Heritage? I do not
subscribe to any of the pay ones. Perhaps I need to.
I will find my Tellins and let you make the final decision as to whether
we have both, but I really think so.
Thanks again,
Carole
In a message dated 7/20/2011 8:55:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
hglee2@MINDSPRING.COM writes:
Dear Carole,
Thanks to Markus Huber, I have just discovered that we have both
Tellinella listeri (Röding, 1798) and T. mexicana (Petit de la Saussaye, 1841) in
our NE Florida waters. The original description of the latter is in:
Petit de la Saussaye, S., 1841. Description de quelques coquilles nouvelles
. Revue Zoologique 4: 183-186. June, and it is on-line at
_<http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/19646#page/191/mode/1up>_
(http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/19646#page/191/mode/1up) . There is no type figure.
You're correct about Bush's original description of Lasaea bermudensis.
However, she figured it in a paper the following year (A.E. Verrill and Bush,
1900: 518; pl. 63, figs. 4,5; see
_<http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/48107#page/548/mode/1up>_
(http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/48107#page/548/mode/1up) and
_<http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/48107#page/855/mode/1up>_ (http://www.
biodiversitylibrary.org/item/48107#page/855/mode/1up) )
Verrill, A.E. and K.J. Bush, 1900. Additions to the marine Mollusca of the
Bermudas. Transactions of the Connecticut Academy of Arts and Sciences 10:
513-544, pls. 63-66. Sept.
More recently, Dick Johnson (1989: : 24; pl. 5, figs. 2) designated and
figured a lectotype (Yale Peabody Museum 8885). This work It is on-line, and
the relevant figures are at
_<http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/25416#page/119/mode/1up>_
(http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/25416#page/119/mode/1up) .
Johnson, R. I., 1989. Molluscan taxa of Addison Emery Verrill and
Katharine Jeannette Bush, including those introduced by Sanderson Smith and
Alpheus Hyatt Verrill. Occ. Pap. Moll. 5(67): 1-143. Aug. 30.
You didn't ask, but in my opinion, the tellin is a valid biotaxon, and the
LWC is a synonym of Lasaea adansoni (Gmelin, 1791).
Harry
On 7/20/2011 5:11 PM, _Marshalldg@AOL.COM_ (mailto:Marshalldg@AOL.COM)
wrote:
I hope someone can help with this. I am trying to look up descriptions for
Lasaea bermudensis Bush, 1899. According to Marine Mollusks of Bermuda it
is a comment on a paper of Dall's written in Science, new series 10 (243).
I have not been able to locate that per Heritage Biodiversity. Can anyone
give me guidance on how I can obtain this.?
The other paper is by Petit, S.S. 1841 for the description of Tellina
mexicana. Looking also for a plate, I do not think the original paper has a
plate.
If anyone can give me guidance on how to obtain this information, thank
you,
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is knowing not to include
it in a fruit salad.
Carole Marshall
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