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Date:   Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:17:19 -0400
Reply-To:   Rich Ulrich <rich-ulrich@live.com>
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From:   Rich Ulrich <rich-ulrich@live.com>
Subject:   Re: Question about non-normal data
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Perhaps you are over-thinking this.

The straight-forward way to "control for multiple comparisons" would be use a Bonferroni correction (or one of its variations) of the p-values for the 5 separate t-test. Thus, your 5 initial 0.05 tests would be performed at the 0.05/5 = 0.01 nominal alpha.

Or if you want an overall test, you would use one of the formulas for combining p-values.

What Levene's test indicates directly is a difference in variances, not non-normality in itself. Why do you see it? If there is a ceiling/basement effect, then there might be an underlying transformation that would help; on the other hand, if that is the problem, the original F-test is probably robust if the Ns are reasonably equal and you don't have any *really* extreme outliers. (I would not expect such extremes here, since this is rating-scale data).

I do like to use a transformation to normalize scores, so long as it comes naturally to the data. Since you are having trouble there, I think you should be satisfied with the more basic solutions, suggested above.

-- Rich Ulrich

Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:15:02 -0700 From: jladyl@yahoo.com Subject: Question about non-normal data To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Dear list, I have depression scores (continuous variable) and a gender variable from five different countries (country variable: 1=chile, 2=cuba, 3=mexico, 4=argentina, 5=uruguay). I wanted to find out whether there was a difference in depression scores based on gender, so I ran t-tests within each country. I received a critique which stated that I had not controlled for multiple comparisons. To address the critique I decided to run a univariate GLM, but my levene's test is significant and I have been trying to transform the depression scores but to no avail. Does anyone have any advice on how to deal with a situation like this? All suggestions are welcomed, Thanks


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