Date:         Fri, 3 Dec 2010 09:35:07 -0500
Reply-To:     Gerhard Hellriegel <gerhard.hellriegel@T-ONLINE.DE>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Gerhard Hellriegel <gerhard.hellriegel@T-ONLINE.DE>
Subject:      Re: How to get all the possbile combination of data

Miiiiikeeeee,

only some thoughts to that. I was a teacher in a kind of special college
in Germany for several years, many years ago. SAS was not known to me,
PL/1 was the thing and there WAS no PL1-L, also WWW was not born yet. So
the only source for the students were other students, teachers and books.
I found that there are different kinds of students. I leave those out who
had their major talent in football, cooking or knitting. Some wanted to
become good IT specialists and some wanted to become managers. For a IT
specialist it is good to know as much as possible about IT and it is not
bad to "speak" a programming language. For managers it is important to
motivate that others to do the work, it is BAD for them to know too much!
But they must know who are that people and how they get them to do what
has to be done. We tried to be a college for IT-specialists, maybe there
are others who try to be a manager-college!
In our case here, its hard to say, what the REAL challenge was. Maybe
something like "here is a not-too-simple question, try to get specialists
to resolve that for you. If you were successful, ask them to improve the
solution...". In that case the solution itselve is not too important and
only the number of specialists and their skill which were working for that
solution will bring a smile on the teachers face. If it is a teacher like
that, I think he might not be able to understand the real solution at all.
Maybe he did not even understand the question cause he succeeded to bring
a colleague to develop it...

Have a nice weekend!

Gerhard




On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 08:49:05 -0500, Michael Raithel
<michaelraithel@WESTAT.COM> wrote:

>Dear SAS-L-ers,
>
>Replying to Art's kind gesture of doing his homework assignment for him,
Andrei Park posted the following:
>
>>
>> Thank you for the help.
>>
>> I was thinking whether there could be more efficient way to code.
>>
>
>Andrei, were you, indeed?!?!?!  What, exactly did you have in mind?
Considering your earlier statement that you "... just started learning SAS
and need some help...", I am curious about your basis for thinking that
there is a more efficient way to code this than Art has done.
>
>I am also curious as to whether college professors sanction students
getting professional help for homework assignments.  I have been out of
school for so long that I really don't know if that is now just and proper
or if it is a breach of educational ethics.  I would love to hear from SAS-
L-ers who are in academia on this question.  Really!
>
>Andrei, if posting your homework assignments to a listserv is A-OK with
your professor, it would seem to me that you should let the listserv know
what SAS language constructs you are currently learning/have studied.
Then, SAS-L-ers could craft an answer to your homework assignment that
would be commensurate with what you have gone over in class.  That would
bring a smile to your professor's face... and a frown to fellow students
who do not know about the kind-hearted participants on SAS-L and are left
on the other side of that bell curve.
>
>Andrei, best of luck in all your SAS endeavors!
>
>I hope that this suggestion proves helpful now, and in the future!
>
>Of course, all of these opinions and insights are my own, and do not
reflect those of my organization or my associates. All SAS code and/or
methodologies specified in this posting are for illustrative purposes only
and no warranty is stated or implied as to their accuracy or
applicability. People deciding to use information in this posting do so at
their own risk.
>
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Michael A. Raithel
>"The man who wrote the book on performance"
>E-mail: MichaelRaithel@westat.com
>
>Author: Tuning SAS Applications in the MVS Environment
>
>Author: Tuning SAS Applications in the OS/390 and z/OS Environments,
Second Edition
>http://www.sas.com/apps/pubscat/bookdetails.jsp?catid=1&pc=58172
>
>Author: The Complete Guide to SAS Indexes
>http://www.sas.com/apps/pubscat/bookdetails.jsp?catid=1&pc=60409
>
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>of highest value sometimes come hard. The gold that has the
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