Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:58:18 -0400
Reply-To: Philip Rack <PhilRack@MINEQUEST.COM>
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From: Philip Rack <PhilRack@MINEQUEST.COM>
Subject: Re: Server SAS vs PC SAS, Pros and Cons
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Having four cores running on a workstation are probably sufficient for 99%
of all people right now. With four cores on my desktop, I have to TRY to peg
all the cores. I/O is more of an issue for me than CPU at this point.
Things are changing though, and fast. You see Apple with their new 12 core
24 LCPU Mac Pro out there.
http://store.apple.com/us/configure/Z0M4?mco=MTg2OTQ5OTk
tiny url: http://tinyurl.com/2w6cf2h
Of course, you could probably just go with this baby from Dell...
http://content.dell.com/us/en/enterprise/hpcc-cray-cx1-iws.aspx
tiny url: http://tinyurl.com/ybngysa
Philip Rack
MineQuest, LLC
SAS & WPS Consulting and WPS Reseller
Tel: (614) 457-3714
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-----Original Message-----
From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Arthur
Tabachneck
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:03 PM
To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: Server SAS vs PC SAS, Pros and Cons
Kevin,
I'll have to let our more hardware literate members discuss the
differences between processors on power workstations and servers, but I
know that today's power workstations can run rings around my current 4-
processor server, and at a fraction of the cost of upgrading the server.
Also, I poorly stated the licensing difference. What I am planning on
switching to is a 15-user workstation license. That would allow 15 of us
to install SAS on as many computers as we so desire, as long as only the
15 of us will be running SAS on those computers.
Thus, when any of us go on a trip, we'll be able to access SAS directly on
our laptops. At home, or at work, any of us will be able to access SAS on
either our desktops or laptops.
And, however defined, I believe the license allows us to have up to 4-
processor machines. However, I'll leave the definition of processor to
someone else more knowledgeable of such matters.
Art
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:45:56 -0400, Viel, Kevin <kviel@SJHA.ORG> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
>> Arthur Tabachneck
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:31 AM
>> To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Server SAS vs PC SAS, Pros and Cons
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>> For a 15 user four-processor server license the price tag is absurdly
high
>> as compared to a 15 workstation license which can be loaded onto up to 4
>> processor workstations.
>
>
>Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the "4 processor workstation"
actually a single chips with four cores? My impression was that the
server had four or more such chips.
>
>The server license may have an unlimited number of users, with the caveat
that the processes, as MIIIIKKKKEEEE points out that they may swamp the
box (however, I was under the impression that the admin can limit the
resources available to users on the Nix systems). Also, one only needs to
access the server, versus sitting at one's workstation. Finding myself
once again in locations across Atlanta, home to some of the worst traffic
and public transportation system, I would value the ability to use SAS
without my laptop instead of snaking back to my cubicle once I met with an
investigator.
>
>-Kevin
>
>
>
>Kevin Viel, PhD
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