Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:25:01 -0400
Reply-To: "Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)" <muenchen@UTK.EDU>
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From: "Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)" <muenchen@UTK.EDU>
Subject: Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
>Mary
>Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:02 AM
>To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...
>
>Yes, it would help to do job advertisements; especially using the
>Monster.com site to get at corporate use of packages; SAS tends to
>dominate in the industries that have many records to deal with since R
>cannot currently deal with many records (thus, Health Insurance,
>Education such as ACT and SAT, Financial Industry such as Stocks, and
>large Federal Government applications like the Census).
Hi Mary,
Yes, that's what I found about three years ago. I'll be surprised if that has changed much.
>
>SPSS tends to be more prevalant in its historical niche, Social Science.
>Yes, it does have GUI interface today but I think it has to do more with
>survey-oriented fields that have always used SPSS.
Good point. They each are #1 in some areas.
>
>R is becoming more prevalent, but now is more in academic environments
>like Research/Statistical jobs on college campuses. Picking those up is
>a bit difficult since most universities primarily advertise on only
>their own web sites.
True, we're spoiled to have people lining up for interesting but lower paying jobs!
>
>But yes, looking at the job advertisements, is a good indication of what
>is going on in the market with these products.
>
>I would think R would have more questions on a user group since it is
>newer and thus more people are learning it (either in school or in
>addition to what they already use), whereas most of these questions have
>already been answered on SAS and SPSS sites, and thus people can just
>search the archives.
You would think so, but it seems that few beginners know how to search an archive but they all know how to send email. The people answering the questions on R-help frequently just post the link to where it's been answered before.
Cheers,
Bob
>
>-Mary
>
>--- muenchen@UTK.EDU wrote:
>
>From: "Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)" <muenchen@UTK.EDU>
>To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...
>Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:05:17 -0400
>
>Dear Francois,
>
>I'm glad you enjoyed it. I should have the results of at least one
>survey and a content analysis of job advertisements added in a month or
>two.
>
>Cheers,
>Bob
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
>>Francois van der Walt
>>Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 2:56 AM
>>To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>Subject: Re: Popularity of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata...
>>
>>Dear Bob,
>>
>>This was an amazing attempt to measure the "unmeasurable". I enjoyed it
>>and
>>I am looking forward to the next bits.
>>
>>Kind regards
>>Francois
>>
>>On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 09:31:07 -0400, Muenchen, Robert A (Bob)
>><muenchen@UTK.EDU> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>I've been fiddling around with various ways to estimate the popularity
>>>of R, SAS, SPSS, Stata, JMP, Minitab, Statistica, Systat, BMDP,
>S-PLUS,
>>>R-PLUS and Revolution R. It's not an easy task. You can see what I've
>>>come up with so far at http://r4stats.com/popularity . I'm sure people
>>>will have plenty of ideas on how to improve this, so please let me
>know
>>>what you think.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Bob
>>>
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