LMAO Phil, I doubt I rate on the lowest level SAS employees radar, much less have them taking anything I say seriously. Id love to help them as much as I can on a whole host o reason. But hey who of us wouldnt. If for nothing else to make the language we love so much better if not the best language out there.

Toby Dunn

"Don't bail. The best gold is at the bottom of barrels of crap." Randy Pausch "Be prepared. Luck is where preparation meets opportunity." Randy Pausch

> Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 19:03:37 -0400 > From: PhilRack@MINEQUEST.COM > Subject: Re: "R is an epic fail." from http://www.thejuliagroup.com/blog/?p=433 > To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I think Toby has them so flustered that they're all working on the new > editor. > > Philip Rack > MineQuest, LLC > SAS & WPS Consulting and WPS Reseller > Tel: (614) 457-3714 > Web: www.MineQuest.com > Blog: www.MineQuest.com/WordPress > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jack > Hamilton > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 6:31 PM > To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: "R is an epic fail." from > http://www.thejuliagroup.com/blog/?p=433 > > It would be interesting to hear an explanation of why installing and > updating SAS products is so difficult. > > It's not that even the simple cases are problematic. It's not that there > are no examples of good ways to do it. And the people at SAS are smart and > could certainly figure it out. > > So there must be some other reason, but what? Internal politics? A > conscious decision to make it hard? They don't think it's worth the effort? > > > -- > Jack Hamilton > jfh@alumni.stanford.org > Caelum non animum mutant qui trans mare currunt. > > > > > On May 5, 2010, at 15:06 , toby dunn wrote: > > > Well proves two things: SAS admits that there is a problem and they are > reactive rather than proactive. SGF and ballotware is good up to a point. > Id rather see SAS be a little more proactive rather than reactive on many > things. Look at BI (I still Big Mistake) when it was rolled out, the next > thing you know you have whole tracks at SUGI then I believe on how to > install it. Do we ave to pay the same price for EG also. Wen did learning > from past mistakes become an option. > > > > Toby Dunn > > > > "Don't bail. The best gold is at the bottom of barrels of crap." > > Randy Pausch > > > > "Be prepared. Luck is where preparation meets opportunity." > > Randy Pausch > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 17:30:08 -0400 > >> From: dynamicpanel@YAHOO.COM > >> Subject: Re: "R is an epic fail." from > http://www.thejuliagroup.com/blog/?p=433 > >> To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >> > >> Unfortunately and accidentally, SAS bites Dr. AnnMaria De Mars from the > >> back: > >> http://susanslaughter.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/a-sas-horror-story/ > >> or tiny URL: > >> http://tiny.cc/8ut6o > >> > >> > >> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:13:17 -0400, Joe Whitehurst > >> <joewhitehurst@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > >> > >>> "I know that R is free and I am actually a Unix fan and think Open > Source > >>> software is a great idea. However, for me personally and for most users, > >>> both individual and organizational, the much greater cost of software is > >> the > >>> time it takes to install it, maintain it, learn it and document it. On > >> that, > >>> R is an epic fail. It does NOT fit with the way the vast majority of > people > >>> in the world use computers." > >>> > >>> Dr. AnnMaria De Mars > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:W > L:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3