Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:51:11 -0500
Reply-To: Nathaniel Wooding <nathaniel.wooding@DOM.COM>
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From: Nathaniel Wooding <nathaniel.wooding@DOM.COM>
Subject: Re: OT: SAS sues WPS
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Sig
You have a good memory of trivia. I recall the Texas shooting but given that the shooter died in 1966 at a younger age than the man whom I met, I think we can rule out a match. Mind you, the name could also have been Whitmoore or something similar. My San Antonio proceedings is packed away at the moment so I cannot check the list of attendees.
Nat
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From: Sigurd Hermansen [mailto:HERMANS1@WESTAT.com]
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:40 PM
To: Nathaniel Wooding (Services - 6); SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: RE: OT: SAS sues WPS
That would be spooky if the guy's name really was Charley Whitman and he was in Texas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman
S
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From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Nathaniel Wooding
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:11 PM
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Subject: Re: OT: SAS sues WPS
I'm not sure where it fits in this discussion but there was an early copy of SAS that a guy named Charley Whitman (sp?) ported to an IBM operating system that SAS was not supporting. We did not have it at our shop and I cannot recall the name. This was around the late 1970s. I'm not sure whether a lawsuit was ever involved and apparently he went to work for SAS. I recall meeting him at one of the early Texas SUGIs -- probably San Antonio.
Nat Wooding
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From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Miller
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:40 PM
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Subject: Re: OT: SAS sues WPS
I remembered a big bruhaha but was racking my brain to come up with a name.
Could INDAS be the outfit based in Nashville (as I recall) which had
a port to VAX/VMS ?; They were sued by SI for misappropriating
actual code (i.e. stealing code); as I recall they lost.
As long as we're discussing SAS clones, do not forget
Henry Feldman and Conceptual Software, creators of DBMS/COPY.
AFAIK, they were never sued by SAS; instead they were bought out
and absorbed into the DataFlux product line. I'm not sure what
happened to Henry but I suppose he wanted to devote more
time to acting. (I still run DBMS/COPY once in a while.)
... Mark Miller
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Jonas Bilenas <jonas.bilenas@chase.com>wrote:
> Wasn't there also another software called INDAS that was also sued by SAS
> back in 1982?
>
>
> http://openjurist.org/762/f2d/1011/computer-systems-inc--v-sas-institute-inc
>
>
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:16:34 -0500, John Burton <jrburtonsaspro@GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Joe Whitehurst <joewhitehurst@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >...
> >> Many other software vendors have marketed software that
> >> competes, more or less, with software marketed by SAS without a legal
> >> challenge from SAS other than Bass Institute, which tried something
> similar
> >> to the intellectual property thievery of WPS. SAS threatened to sue
> Bass
> >> Institute and Bass Institute is no longer with us but Jeff Bass is doing
> >> well and still uses SAS occasionally.
> >...
> >
> >Joe,
> >
> >It's been nearly a decade since I heard BASS Institute mentioned. I
> >think it was discussed as a VaSUG meeting. It may even have been you
> >who mentioned the product.
> >
> >I seem to remember that it was a very limited product, but was quite
> >cheap (less than $400?).
> >
> >Ray
>
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