| Date: | Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:49:03 -0400 |
| Reply-To: | Peter Flom <peterflomconsulting@mindspring.com> |
| Sender: | "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> |
| From: | Peter Flom <peterflomconsulting@MINDSPRING.COM> |
| Subject: | Re: URGENT - Kaplan-Meier curves,
95% CI and statistically significant difference |
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"cat.." <cat.b41@GMAIL.COM> wrote
>>
>> I have limited experience in time-to-event data analysis. I requested,
>> in a statistical analysis plan for an observational study, to plot theKaplan-Meiercurves for 2 groups of patients on a single plot,
>> together with the 95% CIs at specific timepoints.
>>
>> When 95% CIs do not overlapp at a given timepoint, is it correct to
>> draw the conclusion that disc rates are significantly different at
>> this timepoint ?
>>
>> Reversely, when they overlapp, is it correct to infer that the disc
>> rates at that timepoint are NOT significantly different ?
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback. This is quite urgent as I need to give my
>> feedback early this coming week.
>>
>> Catherine.
>
>Has anyone an idea ?
Yes to the first question, no to the second question.
That is, if the 95% CI do not overlap, then p will be below .05; but p can be below .05 even if the CIs do overlap.
This was recently discussed, in some depth, on the MEDSTATS list; here:
http://bit.ly/XN075
or, in its original form
http://groups.google.com/group/medstats/search?group=medstats&q=ci++p+overlap&qt_g=Search+this+group
or google MEDSTATS, p, CI, overlap
the topic of the thread was "subgroup analysis"
HTH
Peter
Peter L. Flom, PhD
Statistical Consultant
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