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Date:         Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:23:19 -0500
Reply-To:     Robin R High <rhigh@UNMC.EDU>
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From:         Robin R High <rhigh@UNMC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Matched Triplets - Glimmix
Comments: To: Jeff <jeffrey.m.allard@GMAIL.COM>
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Jeff,

The basic features look OK, though with one random effect and for groupid clusters of size 3, I'd work with method=laplace or method=quad (rather than the default) (also, would prefer ddfm=contain (the default0 rather than bw, but would otherwise also recommend ddfm=kr, though not available with method=quad). Also if you are interested in differences in the agetype variable, I'd add the diff and oddsratio options to the LSMEANS statement (remove the latter from MODEL) and add a multiple comparison adjustment to the confidence intervals:

proc glimmix data = final method=quad; *or perhaps method=laplace; class agetype groupid; model sponsored08_binary (desc) = agetype / dist=binary link=logit solution ; random intercept / subject =groupid; lsmeans agetype / cl ilink diff oddsratio adjust=simulate(seed=39283 nsamp=50000); run;

Robin High UNMC

Jeff <jeffrey.m.allard@GMAIL.COM> Sent by: "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> 06/30/2009 07:15 AM Please respond to Jeff <jeffrey.m.allard@GMAIL.COM>

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Subject Matched Triplets - Glimmix

Hey Guys-

Looking for some validation for my first foray into the world of Proc Glimmix (and Generalized Linear Mixed Models).

The Setup: *I have individuals from three age groups (generations). I am looking at a very simple situation where I want to evaluate the generations for differences on a couple different measures (some binary, some counts, 1 continuous). I have excluded all individuals that did not have all of 2008 to accumulate these events. *One big difference between individuals is the length of their tenure. How long they have been members will likely effect the dependent variables I'm interested in. *So, I have taken the age group I am the most interested in, and matched each individual to a member of the other two age groups on the basis of tenure. The matches (measured in number of days prior to 1/1/2008 is nearly perfect for each. *I now have matched triplets, where each member of each triplet is from one of the three age groups.

Proc Glimmix: *I have seen a couple examples of using Glimmix with matched pairs (Peter Floms paper on dyads for example) but never quite like what I am looking to do. *Thoughts on this? Here is the simple Glimmix code:

proc glimmix data = final; class agetype groupid; model sponsored08_binary (desc) = agetype / dist=binary link=logit ddfm=bw solution oddsratio; random intercept / subject =groupid; lsmeans agetype / cl ilink; run;

Has my first Glimmix experience been a boom or bust?

Thanks!

Jeff


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