Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:51:50 -0700
Reply-To: Stephen McDaniel <stephen@STEPHENMCDANIEL.US>
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From: Stephen McDaniel <stephen@STEPHENMCDANIEL.US>
Subject: Re: OT: Office 14 for the Web
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There were several reasons MS changed Office so radically:
1) Too many menus and suboptions that were very hard to find, so they
contextualized with dynamic ribbons that appear and disappear as you
work on different elements in your document
2) It looks cool and is a shorter learning curve for new users
3) They patented much of the UI elements. They will freely share
these elements with other companies, UNLESS the product directly
competes with Office (think Open Office.)
4) Yes, whether or not people like it MS defines the desktop like
Apple defines the handheld like Google defines web search. I
personally think it is overall superior after extensive use of 2007,
but do find certain activities that were quicker in 2003/XP.
5) Vista got and unfair bad rap because of migration issues. MS could
have controlled this by doing only OEM for another year before selling
upgrades to retail customers. They were hamstrung by device driver
support in particular from many companies...
Best,
Stephen
On 10/29/08, Mary <mlhoward@avalon.net> wrote:
> I said "abandoning the word".
>
> My biggest concern is the learning curve; it was extremely steep to go from
> Office 2003 to
> Office 2007 (and I STILL hunt around constantly to find things in Office
> 2007 even though I taught it for a year at the community
> college). I am still with XP, because I know how to find everything, and
> worry that the new versions will totally destroy the
> learning that I've already done.
>
> Plus Office 2007 is now the only product that is "different" of the software
> on my desktop- why is it we need to have an Office
> Button when all other software has a file menu?? The folks at Microsoft
> seem to think that Microsoft products are the only things
> we have on our desktops...
>
> -Mary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pardee, Roy
> To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: OT: Office 14 for the Web
>
>
> "Abandoning" seems overly harsh--they're moving on to the next version of
> the windows OS, just like when they moved from 2000 to XP or from XP to
> Vista. I expect they'll support vista for a pretty long period of time
> (just like other versions of the OS).
>
> -Roy (who likes vista quite a lot ;-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan
> Churchill
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:41 AM
> To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: OT: Office 14 for the Web
>
> Windows 7 is more of a cleanup of Vista and fixing some long-standing
> issues. It looked really good on the demo shown at PDC. People can watch the
> webcast if they like from PDC to see how it has changed. Vista was a major
> overall of Windows but the issues they fixed in Windows 7 are really
> annoyances and a tightening of the overall Vista base.
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> Alan Churchill
> Savian
> www.savian.net <http://www.savian.net/>
>
>
>
> From: Mary [mailto:mlhoward@avalon.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:08 AM
> To: Alan Churchill; SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: OT: Office 14 for the Web
>
>
>
> Also, the version of their operating system will be called "Windows 7",
> not "Vista"; they are apparently abandoning
>
> the word Vista altogether.
>
>
>
> -Mary
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Alan Churchill <mailto:savian001@GMAIL.COM>
>
> To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:55 PM
>
> Subject: OT: Office 14 for the Web
>
>
>
> Microsoft announced that the next version of Office (14) will be run on
> the web and as a rich-client. The web version looks like it uses a lot of
> Silverlight so it should be very nice (the demo I saw looked great).
>
>
>
> This should change some deployment strategies vis-à-vis SAS. We'll see
> where it heads.
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> Alan Churchill
> Savian
> <http://www.savian.net/> www.savian.net
>
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