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Date:         Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:10:01 -0400
Reply-To:     Peter Flom <peterflomconsulting@mindspring.com>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Peter Flom <peterflomconsulting@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject:      Re: interpreting SAS output
Comments: To: "globalreviewer@gmail.com" <globalreviewer@GMAIL.COM>
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"globalreviewer@gmail.com" <globalreviewer@GMAIL.COM> wrote

>Thank you for helping me with your inputs. I am not expecting >different SEs rather I am expecting 'similar' SEs once the values are >back-transformed (not after transformation). >

OIC, that makes more sense, but backtransforming doesn't restore the original values ... Not sure how dissimilar they 'ought' to be, though

>My mixed code is given below. I used log transformation on my data >because they were not normally distributed: >

The key is not that the *data* be normally distributed, but that the *residuals* are normally distributed. But I see below that you seem to have done this.

>proc mixed data=PlotObs_Trans ; >class Month Sex ; >Model LogVRate=Month Sex Month*Sex /solution ddfm=satterth >outp=OutOldTrans1; >Lsmeans month*Sex/slice=Month; >Lsmeans month*sex/slice=sex; >LSmeans Month Sex month*Sex/PDIFF CL ADJUST=TUKEY; >Run; >

this looks right to me, but others are more expert in MIXED coding.

>Data OutOldTrans1; >Merge PlotObs_Old_Trans OutOldTrans1; >aresid = ABS(resid); >Drop StdErrPred Lower Upper; >Run; >Proc plot data=OutOldTrans1 vpercent=50; >plot LogVRate*Month LogVRate*Sex; >Plot Resid*Month resid*Sex /vref=0; >plot Resid*Pred aresid*Pred/Vref=0; >Quit; >

I know very little of proc plot ....

>TITLE7 'Examination of variance homogeneity using rank correlation'; >TITLE8 'between absolute residuals vs predicted values'; >PROC CORR SPEARMAN DATA=OutOldTrans1; >VAR aresid Pred; >QUIT; >TITLE8 'Examination of normality of residuals'; >PROC UNIVARIATE NORMAL PLOT DATA=OutOldTrans1; >/*tests for normality W shud be closer to 1 and p shud not be <.05*/ >VAR Resid; >Quit; > >Also, what is the best method to show the interaction graphically.. >plotting the means from the raw data or the estimates from proc >mixed ? I thought one would back-transform the estimates and the SE >and plot them on the graph (???). >

Since both your IVs are categorical, I think I'd draw a series of parallel box plots. I think you said that one IV has 2 categories and the other has 6. So, I would do a graph with 12 boxplots, in two rows of 6 each.

Not sure at all how to do that in SAS. I do my graphics in R, usually

Peter

Peter L. Flom, PhD Statistical Consultant www DOT peterflom DOT com


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