| Date: | Mon, 31 Dec 2007 10:51:10 -0600 |
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| From: | "Martin H. Eastburn" <lionslair@CONSOLIDATED.NET> |
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| Subject: | Re: stop shell collecting |
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<tt>Good shot John -<br>
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Calcium carbonate is CaCO3 <br>
Mollusks shells absorb CO2 from the water (as does coral...)<br>
It locks out the CO2 from pollution. <br>
Therefore they cleanse the water of CO2 and allows the water<br>
to absorb more CO2. <br>
<br>
We want coral growth, a massive CO2 is stored there.<br>
Sadly, there is a plague of coral killers - starfish -<br>
spreading in the tropics. From Oz to Kwaj and more.<br>
<br>
Right on John.<br>
<br>
Lets look at another issue. Over population.<br>
<br>
If a population grows to the extent that it begins to<br>
starve out its population or eats out another population -<br>
one or more population will begin to die off from over population.<br>
<br>
If shells are harvested or picked, this preventing over population<br>
and may save one or more populations from demise.<br>
<br>
We see it in nature - more deer after fire which brings<br>
on more low and tender growth to eat. More nut eating rodents<br>
when trees produce more acorns, pecans and various nuts. More<br>
hawks and eagles when the rodent population increases...<br>
[ Going up is generally fun. Dying back is never fun. ]<br>
<br>
I think all populations do about the same. Even ourselves.<br>
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So as in the CO2 issue, demise of shells by over population <br>
beg relief with our help.<br>
<br>
Martin<br>
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John Timmerman wrote:
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<p>Maybe a bit of a tangent, but here goes.</p>
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<p>Mollusk shells are calcium carbonate. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Carbon dioxide is one of the green-house gases.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Carbon in mollusk shells is unavailable to the environment. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Shell collectors by the very act of amassing and preserving
shells in collections remove and prevent carbon from returning to the
environment. Thus they are helping mitigate the proliferation of one of
the byproducts of burning fossil fuels. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Conclusion. Should not those who would outlaw the collecting of
shells dead or alive be then be seen as detractors to the health of
the planet as well? </p>
<p> </p>
<p>I fully agree with Tom and others that shell collecting inspires
(me) the very way that art does. It is a pursuit that makes our journey
through this life so much more enjoyable. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>I do propose the above line of thought to those who detract what I
do for inspiration. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>John Timmerman</p>
<p>Wilmington, North Carolina</p>
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This thread could undoubtedly be used by the Town Council to get votes
for local legislation to stop all shelling. You can't walk the beach
any more and pick up a specimen that is recently-dead. In some places
you can't pick it up if it's been dead for "ten million years". <br>
<br>
I think believing that the individual collector makes a "dent" in the
mollusk population is humorous; but deadly. Pharmaceuticals that came
from mollusks? Curiosity that began with a kid picking up a shell?
Love of nature promulgated by holding a shell in one's hand?<br>
<br>
Some of today's teachers border on teaching "worship the earth" without
considering the validity of the claims presented in their materials.<br>
<br>
Surely this group shouldn't support the demise of the pursuit of the
thing we love, should we? Stop collecting? Ban or discourage shell
clubs? Teach our children to "look, but don't touch"?<br>
&nbs! p;<br>
I
s your hobby/passion destroying the earth?? I don't believe it.<br>
<br>
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Martin H. Eastburn
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TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
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