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Date:         Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:17:45 -0800
Reply-To:     "cat.." <cat.b41@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         "cat.." <cat.b41@GMAIL.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Univariate tests before multivariate modeling in logistic
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On Nov 9, 9:16 pm, Paige Miller <paige.mil...@kodak.com> wrote: > Received via e-mail: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­----- > "Sometime back, don't remember now how, you wrote that the covariates > must appropriately be transformed before they can be used with PLS. > > "Can you please direct me to a paper that discusses this issue? I > don'y know whta kinds of transformations I must perfom on the > predictor varuiables before they can be used with PLS. > > "Also, once done with PLS, do we have to un-transform the inputs back > to their original form. (I hope not!)" > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­----- > Reply: > > The only transformation I can ever remember recommending is to center > and scale your predictor (covariate) variables so that they have mean > zero and variance 1. Even this is optional in the proper setting. Of > course, in specific instances, you might want to take the logarithm or > square root or other transform of your predictors, but this is done on > an individual variable and individual dataset basis. > > You shouldn't have to un-transform your predictor variables. Good > software should make this transparent. Of course, bad software > exists... > > Reference: Rasmus Bro, Age K. Smilde (2003), "Centering and scaling in > component analysis", J. of Chemometrics, Vol 17, No. 1, pp 16-33 > > -- > Paige Miller > paige\dot\miller \at\ kodak\dot\com

Hi Paige,

It makes no sense, in my opinion, to scale continuous covariates in a logistic model. Because it makes the interpretation of the coefficient complicated. Eg: Age is a covariate and has coeff Beta in the model. If you just center it before modeling, you can infer than an increase of 1 year generates an increase in OR of exp(beta), which you cannot do if you have also scaled the covariate.

Regards,

Catherine.


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