Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:35:19 -0700
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From: nschell <natalieschell@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: HLM dropped cases
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Hi Lisa,
You were right, that was completely painstaking, but quite helpful! Thank
you so much for the advice! Now I know which cases are being dropped and I
just need to figure out why...the fun never ends.
Many thanks,
Natalie
Lisa Stickney wrote:
>
> Hi Natalie,
>
> Yes, you can track down the dropped cases. Unfortunately, it's a
> somewhat painstaking and tedious process, and I do not know how to look at
> data in HLM.
>
> That said, I would do is start with the statistics file created by
> HLM.
> You can find them in a file called HLM3MDM.STS. This is really a text
> file
> that can easily be opened using notepad or your favorite word processor.
> It
> contains the descriptives for your variables separated by level. I would
> compare the descriptives from HLM to the ones in SPSS. Once you identify
> which variables differ, you can use the filter command to identify the
> cases
> that are missing (select cases that fall out of the ranges listed in the
> MDM
> statistics file).
>
> Also, what versions of HLM & SPSS are you using?
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Best,
> Lisa
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "nschell" <natalieschell@HOTMAIL.COM>
> To: <SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 1:34 PM
> Subject: HLM dropped cases
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am importing data from SPSS into HLM. I have three levels of data. I
>> have no missing data, the data is sorted correctly, and all the IDs match
>> up. However, when I import the data, HLM drops 19/301 cases at level 2.
>> I
>> imported levels 1&2 and 2&3 separately as two-level models to narrow down
>> where the problem was, and it seems to be between levels 1&2, but I have
>> no
>> idea how to find out which cases it is dropping or why. Does anyone have
>> suggestions aside from missing data, mismatched IDs or sorting? Does
>> anyone
>> know how to look at the data in HLM...just looking at the descriptives
>> tells
>> me I'm missing data but not which cases. Or any suggestions on how to
>> figure out which cases are being dropped?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Natalie
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