I wish I had as few as two or three. In a week away from my email server I collected some hundreds.

There is the tale of the wise man and the sultans white horse. In true childish pattern, it has a happy ending and he explains his deductions. However, just as good deeds should not go unpunished, so being capable of divination has led to accusations of witchcraft since the middle ages. My foxhole is deep, but Reynard is not too happy that I evicted him. <grin>

Kind regards

David

-----Original Message----- From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]On Behalf Of Nat Wooding Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2007 3:53 AM To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Emailing SAS Graphs using the pull down option -- SAS 9.1 under Windows

David

Alas, but your knowledge of vulgar American idioms does seem to be sufficient to handle normal locker room conversation. You did, indeed, recognize my reference.

If they shoot the messengers, do they also shoot those who accurately predict unfortunate future events? If so, I suggest that you start digging a foxhole.

I, too, view any attachment from an unknown source as suspicious and I have noted a sudden spate of these in the past month or two. It seems like two or three are now coming in daily.

Nat

Nat Wooding Environmental Specialist III Dominion, Environmental Biology 4111 Castlewood Rd Richmond, VA 23234 Phone:804-271-5313, Fax: 804-271-2977

David Johnson <d@DKVJ.BIZ> Sent by: "SAS(r) To Discussion" SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <SAS-L@LISTSERV.U cc GA.EDU> Subject Re: Emailing SAS Graphs using the 08/20/2007 09:03 pull down option -- SAS 9.1 AM under Windows

Please respond to d@dkvj.biz

My knowledge of the American vernacular is limited, and I can't make the connection I'm afraid. The closest I come is something of similar ilk that refers to the value of anatomical portions of the female bovine on the male version. Depending on the verbiage chosen it too is probably offensive to some <grin>

I've been tackling efficiency issues in my email server this weekend, and analysing the time between HELO and QUIT (the Alpha and Omega of an email...) and am finding an increase in a trend I wrote about two years ago for a SUGI paper. So swamped are some of the validation servers that if you query email addresses on DNS Black Lists, and query the DNS for Sender Policy Framework exclusions, the response time can be so long that either the sending or receiving server times out before the message proceeds. This is an indicator of the impact of Spam on email. The cost is that messages are retried up to the final retry timeout period of the server, which increases the number of queries, which increases the delay and so on...

I got on to this because we couldn't get a 1Mb document to a client without the connection dying. Normally it should not have been a problem, but of late it has been a chronically unreliable request. Mind you, the email server at this end is fielding between 12000 and 15000 email transactions a day which equates to around 2500 messages. Many are blocked by server rules or exclusions, but enough get through to require a lot of deletions on the email client.

The point of my sad tale is that anther prediction I made in the same venue looks more likely now. I said that there would be an increase in unanswered and unread messages because of the inability of the reader to identify genuine material from the rubbish. Emails with attachments are treated by me with grave suspicion, and it is very likely it will be deleted if the message subject is not immediately relevant to me. Since a number of packages that support emailing files will generate an email with a subject that says "Emailing PIC0001.JPG", it becomes even more important to pay attention to the subject line, and possibly also to the name of the attached file.

I still rarely use the PMenu method to send email from SAS, and am not likely to change in the near future since I code for long term reusability and reliability. However, if you get it onto the ballot, I will vote favourably for the change.

Kind regards

David

-----Original Message----- From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]On Behalf Of Nat Wooding Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2007 11:26 PM To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Emailing SAS Graphs using the pull down option -- SAS 9.1 under Windows

David

Many thanks for the reply.

I, too, have no love for BMPs and when offered the opportunity, save graphics files in more compact formats. While our internal email will allow me to send such porcine files, our limits on stored email will often cause problems.

I have had a couple replies from tech support and they, of course, said that I have two alternatives:

1) use the feature as it now stands: select email from the drop down and send it as a bmp with a default name 2) use the export feature where I have complete control and then create the message on my own and attach the graph.

TS did forward my gripes (sans, unfortunately, a gripe about the file being bmp by default) to the developers but I was offered no hope of there being any action on the matter.

As I said, I only recently took notice of the feature and I have used it a couple times where I needed to create an ad hoc graph and then email it to a couple folks at work. Given their computer skills, I do not expect them to save the graphs on their hard drives. However, I am still unhappy that I cannot give the file a name that would mean something.

In summary, this feature offers a nice way to quickly send a graph but realllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyy falls down on the options available to the user. And now, to test your knowledge of crude American idiom, the feature reminds me of a phrase that involves the uselessness of bits of the anatomy of male pigs.

I hope you are having a great weekend.

Nat

Nat Wooding Environmental Specialist III Dominion, Environmental Biology 4111 Castlewood Rd Richmond, VA 23234 Phone:804-271-5313, Fax: 804-271-2977

David Johnson <d@DKVJ.BIZ> Sent by: "SAS(r) To Discussion" SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <SAS-L@LISTSERV.U cc GA.EDU> Subject Re: Emailing SAS Graphs using the 08/17/2007 08:24 pull down option -- SAS 9.1 PM under Windows

Please respond to d@dkvj.biz

I think this is what I would expect. There is no love lost between the space on my hard drive and BMP files. I find them to be extremely inefficient and prefer one of the compressed formats, selecting the level of compression the task will bear. This also means I specify an output file name and use an appropriate SAS/Graph driver for the output.

The default behaviour is useful only to demonstrate that the graph generation works and that the email engine is correctly configured. Depending on an approach that delivers bloat mails puts my work at risk of not being read due to file sizes and email filtering rules. So in answer to question 1; no.

Which means that my answer to question 2 is also no.

You should bear in mind though that I don't consider my work to be part of the "average" community, especially when so many people are performing D & M stat analyses, and a lot of others produce ad-hoc and one-off analysis and reporting.

Good luck in solving your issue.

Kind regards

David

-----Original Message----- From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]On Behalf Of Nat Wooding Sent: Wednesday, 15 August 2007 12:32 AM To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Emailing SAS Graphs using the pull down option -- SAS 9.1 under Windows

Version: 9.1, TS1M3 under Win XP Pro

If one creates a graph using SAS Graph and then clicks on File/Send Mail. a new message will be created in one's email system and the graph will appear as an attached BMP file. This is a nice feature since the alternative would be to export the file, go to email, open a new message, and attach the file.

However -- and this is my main gripe -- there appears to be no option for naming the attached file. A second gripe is that one can only add one graph using this feature.

Question1: Does anyone else use this method of emailing a graph

Question2: Are you, too, bugged by this limitation in naming the attachment.

I have opened a track with tech support (US 6611975) but I thought that I would poll the group and see what the SAS community feelings are.

Nat Wooding Environmental Specialist III Dominion, Environmental Biology 4111 Castlewood Rd Richmond, VA 23234 Phone:804-271-5313, Fax: 804-271-2977

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