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Date:         Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:10:49 -0400
Reply-To:     Sigurd Hermansen <HERMANS1@WESTAT.COM>
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From:         Sigurd Hermansen <HERMANS1@WESTAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Identifying a sample design
Comments: To: "cat.." <cat.b41@gmail.com>
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Catherine: I think that we are getting the idea that you don't actually have much of a sample design! Assuming that a random sample from your original data sources gave almost every specialist a equal chance of selection into the sample of specialists, I'd say you have an very simple but adequate sample design at that level. Unfortunately the two-stage sample design that you described earlier makes things more complex. Specialists have likely selected convenience samples of ten patients.

You really have two choices: finesse the sample design issues and attempt to specify a covariance structure that takes into account correlations among observations and specialists, or hire a good statistician as a consultant on both sample design and estimation issues. In other words, you may be able to develop a useful explanatory or predictive model that adjusts for biases due to sample selection and for covariances across patients of the same specialist, but you can't then claim to have representative estimates for a population.

Many of the real sampling and statistical modelling experts on the 'L are making their way to Florida for the SGF. In any event I'd expect that you will need to explain what you hope to do with your sample before sample design experts on the 'L could offer advise. You might start with what outcomes you would expect to see related to the ranges and distributions of covariates by specialist. S -----Original Message----- From: owner-sas-l@listserv.uga.edu [mailto:owner-sas-l@listserv.uga.edu] On Behalf Of cat.. Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:54 AM To: sas-l@uga.edu Subject: Re: Identifying a sample design

Does anyone have an idea ? Thanks. Catherine.


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