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Date:         Fri, 9 Mar 2007 18:05:16 -0600
Reply-To:     SAS_learner <proccontents@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         SAS_learner <proccontents@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: url/day: TED: Technology, Entertainment, Design
Comments: To: "Fehd, Ronald J. (CDC/CCHIS/NCPHI)" <rjf2@cdc.gov>
In-Reply-To:  <2C6B65AAC3623140922DE580669C456ACF196B@LTA3VS001.ees.hhs.gov>
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Thank you Fehd for sharing with us it is really a great presentation

On 3/9/07, Fehd, Ronald J. (CDC/CCHIS/NCPHI) <rjf2@cdc.gov> wrote: > > This is my response to in-house Q. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Original poster of url to TED > > Subject: RE: Trendalyzer (animated graphics) > > > > Thanks, Ronald. The Tufte books are beautiful, aren't they! > > Do you have any thoughts on how we might do this sort of > > thing? > > 1. Clean Data. > > This is, if I am not mistaken a time-series analysis: > i.e.: a slide for each time period, e.g. year. > > Conceptually, this is just animation of a number of graphs. > The wizardry of effective data presentation > has to come from people like Tufte > -- note the bubble to indicate the population > in Hans Rosling graphs -- > and then the ability to run -- i.e., start and stop, > a presentation with each slide for each frame. > > As one who does a lot of work on presentation slides > -- see attached [SGF-slides.pdf] -- > I can tell you you need someone with a good deal of time > and a storyboard. > > > From: A Concerned Reader > > Subject: SAS Graphics > > > We recently viewed a presentation given by Hans Rosling > > that used animated graphics. > > http://www.ted.com/tedtalks/tedtalksplayer.cfm?key=hans_rosling > > I, too, was very impressed with this podcast. > > > These graphics were produced by free software > > developed by Rosling's group, > > www.Gapminder.org. > > We have looked at the web site and software > > but suspect that the software is still being developed. > > > During a conversation this morning, > > someone asked if SAS is capable of producing animated graphics. > > I recall seeing documentation on the subject one time, > > but that is all I know. Can you enlighten us? > > SAS/Graph can produce .gif files > which can be incorporated and viewed by .html > see SAS ODS: Output Delivery System > flexible: other file extensions: jpeg, png, tiff? and pdf > > there are two steps here: > 1. production of graphs, > in either separate files, or one large document. > 2. presentation/animation: speedy viewing of multiple images > > take time to think a minute and you'll recognize > that the moving graphs presented in Rosling's presentation > was just a timed slide show. > You can do this with PowerPoint. > > [snip] > > > Do you have any other suggestions? > > My sense of SAS/Graph is that you need someone, > a programmer, not a user, > who will be dedicated to learning and using SAS/Graph. > It is labor-intensive [snip]. > > Alternatives for canned presentations would be: > > * SAS ODS pdf > and then set up a continual show: > Slide Show: > Show Options > [ ] Loop continuously until 'esc' > > * Microsoft Producer, which is free > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/technologies/producer.mspx > considering that you have already purchased the MicroSoft Office Suite > > I hope that this commentary and critique is helpful to you. > Let me know if you have more Q. > > Ronald J. Fehd, IT Spec > team lead: Office of Statistical Software > and Knowledge Worker Support > HelpDesk Level 3: SAS > CDC SAS site representative >


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