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Date:         Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:21:16 -0700
Reply-To:     Alan Churchill <SASL001@SAVIAN.NET>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Alan Churchill <SASL001@SAVIAN.NET>
Subject:      Re: numbers "that look like" characters in Excel to SAS
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Excel is THE most popular tool in the world for manipulating data. Speed-wise, computers have progressed to the point that my test data now is larger than anything I worked with back in the day. Excel 2007 will allow 1M rows and 65K columns: hence the issue with Excel will become worse.

All that aside, people time is a helluva lot more expensive than computing time. We, as programmers, need to handle whatever is thrown our way. Sure, everyone could be a lot better at entering data but I can't dictate skills. And, users prefer to work with Excel when it comes to data.

Excel needs to be managed by Excel. As soon as you go outside of Excel and don't get the results desired, well....

Alan

Alan Churchill Savian "Bridging SAS and Microsoft Technologies" www.savian.net

-----Original Message----- From: bob mcconnaughey [mailto:bobmcconn@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:28 PM To: Alan Churchill; SAS-L@LISTSERV.VT.EDU Subject: Re: numbers "that look like" characters in Excel to SAS

right..works great if you don't mind that reading in data now takes about 3-4 times as long as it did when data was simply double keyed entered raw data files. Not to mention the innumerable ways in which project managers, lab techs, and PIs can totally hose a "dataset" that's in excel and have NO idea of what they've done.

I suspect the quantity of data has increased exponentially and the quality decreased by an equal amount via excel. --- Alan Churchill <SASL001@SAVIAN.NET> wrote:

> Excel works fine. It is the interface between Excel > and everything else that > causes a problem. >

Bob McConnaughey Westat/NIEHS | Pittsboro, NC

"There is a great homeland of intelligence and love from which no one can be expelled" Carlos Fuentes

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