Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:20:33 -0500 Statisticsdoc "SPSSX(r) Discussion" Statisticsdoc Re: your assistance, please To: Helga Walz <0D8A7D903D5D1E49921B29E01E9895922308BE@EXCHANGE.cis.ubalt.edu> text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Stephen Brand www.statisticsdoc.com

Helga,

Your design appears to be a Repeated Measures ANOVA, with three levels of the between-subject factor (C+I, I only, No Treatment) and two levels of the within-subject time factor. It would have concerns about letting subjects self-select into the static control group. If you can, you want to start with a group of subjects who are willing to participate in the treatments and randomly assign some to a static control group (perhaps a waiting list control group, if the treatment is something of benefit to the participants). Letting subjects self-select out of the treatments means that the groups do not consist of comparable groups of randomly selected individuals. The inferences that you can draw are weaker: to what extent does the control group differ because of treatment effects or self-selection?

HTH,

Stephen Brand

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-----Original Message----- From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]On Behalf Of Helga Walz Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:39 PM To: SPSSX-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: your assistance, please

To the experts,

To determine differences between conditions such as the following, what statistical procedure

would be most appropriate -

The 2 conditions for the I.V. are (C+I) and (I only) with pre and post tests. If some subjects who are giving the pretest

decide not to participate in condition 1 or 2, I would like to put them into a static or control group.

Would it be appropriate to use a Repeat Measures Mixed ANOVA procedure?

One I.V. is (C+I) and (I only) and the second I.V. is the time - i.e. from pre to post?

Would the same statistical method be appropriate if I randomly assign the 3 conditions

(C+I) and (I only) and (control/static) conditions to a specific location?

Thank you so much for your assistance,

Helga Walz

Helga S. Walz, Ph.D.

Division of Applied Behavioral Sciences

University of Baltimore

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Baltimore, Maryland 21201

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