Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:43:15 -0400
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From: Sigurd Hermansen <HERMANS1@WESTAT.COM>
Subject: Re: SAS EG vs SAS EM
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Clint:
I have found EG much less effective for typical program development than
for specification of older summary procedures (FREQ, TABULATE) and SAS
GRAPH options. Other than its server connections, EG does little to make
metadata and database access intuitive and easy.
Perhaps in future versions ....
Sig
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Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 8:37 AM
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Subject: RE: Re: SAS EG vs SAS EM
All,
This is a comment on Toby's comment below, not Ron's. I largely agree
with you but EG does have the Code "object" which allows one to write
straight SAS code. Old timers like us don't have to mess around with all
of the other gizmos if we don't want to.
Personally, I have been getting more impressed with EG as it allows me
to straddle the straight laced metadata-driven world and the more free
wheeling code-driven world. This is particularly important as SAS has
not figured out how to support a true development life cycle (e.g.
code/test/production) within metadata.
Clint
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From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]On Behalf Of
Fehd, Ronald J. (CDC/CCHIS/NCHM)
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:49 PM
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Subject: Re: SAS EG vs SAS EM
> From: toby dunn
> I havent seen such a study, but Eg wasnt built for coders it was built
> for non coders.
but in a recent tsunami at SAS Institute
it was 'suddenly' discovered/realized that only Real SAS Programmers had
the data structure (aka: metadata) knowledge
-and- the database relational modeling theory
-and- the What-Information-Do-They-Really-Want smarts
to be able to design, as opposed to Point-and-Click,
a usable -- rhymes with efficient --
Stored Process.
EG: first task: limit number of rows returned
Ron Fehd the macro maven CDC Atlanta GA USA RJF2 at cdc dot gov
My computer must be broken:
whenever I ask a wrong question,
I get a wrong answer.
-- Pot-Shots by Ashleigh Brilliant
My computer or EG must be broken:
whenever I ask a question of a database with a million rows,
it takes, like, forever to get a wrong answer.
-- Foot-Shots by RJF2
