Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:38:36 -0500
Reply-To: Arthur Tabachneck <art297@NETSCAPE.NET>
Sender: "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From: Arthur Tabachneck <art297@NETSCAPE.NET>
Subject: Re: Gateway syncronization - SAS-L listserver vs.
comp.soft-sys.sas
Scott,
The various mirrors haven't been synchronized for quite some time now (at
least for the last couple of months). If one posts directly on the
listserv, it typically doesn't show up anywhere else anymore. I try to post
via outlook express, which quickly shows up there, on the listserv, and on
Google.
Art
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"Scott Bass" <usenet739_yahoo_com_au> wrote in message
news:43740188$0$14225$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> "David L Cassell" <davidlcassell@MSN.COM> wrote in message
> news:BAY103-F176CE35DA9ECD559A1B30EB0660@phx.gbl...
> > usenet739_yahoo_com_au@ALFREDO.CC.UGA.EDU wrote back:
> >>As an aside, does anyone know why messages don't always make it from the
> >>listserver to the newsgroup? This is the first reply I'd seen on this
> >>subject, and it wasn't threaded with the original message, so I didn't
see
> >>it until after I posted. I think there is a problem with the syncing of
> >>messages between the listserver and the newsgroup. I only use
> >>comp.soft-sys.sas to read SAS-L messages.
> >
> > There's a complex gateway which (in theory) feeds stuff back and forth
> > from
> > the list to the newsgroup, and vice versa. Almost anything can break
it.
> > Did
> > you rack up any bad karma within the last 48 hours? That could be it.
> > :-)
> >
> > Joe Kelley seems to spend large chunks of his life trying to maintain
the
> > gateway,
> > and I admire his fortitude.
> >
> > David
> > --
> > David L. Cassell
> > mathematical statistician
> > Design Pathways
> > 3115 NW Norwood Pl.
> > Corvallis OR 97330
>
> Hi David, et. al.,
>
> The synchronization between SAS-L and comp.soft-sys.sas used to work
fairly
> well. But over the last month or so:
>
> * I sometimes see messages saying "I see you've gotten several replies to
> your question..." that I NEVER see - they don't even arrive late. This
has
> happened a lot.
>
> * The replies are not threading in my newsreader (Outlook Express). The
> replies show up above the message (I sort in reverse datetime order with
> threading turned on). The threading is broken; it's like it's a new
> message, but with the same subject as before. Some replies group
correctly,
> then a second group appears higher up, sometimes with a number of other
> threads in between. I believe this is due to whether the reply is
generated
> from a newsreader vs. email client.
>
> * I'm getting lots of messages that look like:
>
> Hi All.
>
> PROC SUMMARY DATA=3DDAILY NWAY; (create 2 new SAS dsets)
> CLASS TYPE2; (group the records by TYPE2 var.) =20
> VAR GIGS; (perform analysis on the GIGS var.) =20
> OUTPUT OUT=3DTOTALS SUM=3D; (the Output dset is named TOTALS; =
> summing
> on the var. GIGS)
>
> See my interpretations in bold. Are they correct?
> Thanks In Advance
> ~~Carol
>
> Note the "=20" and "=3D" characters. This message is actually bearable,
but
> some messages are almost impossible to read, and cannot be copied into SAS
> due to the =<hex> characters. I thought it was perhaps a mainframe email
> client mailing to the listserver? Or perhaps c-n-p of non-printing
> characters into the email? Anyway, I wish the gateway could strip out
> non-printing characters before sending the email to the newsgroup.
>
> Lastly, one "trick" I've found is, before I ever post, I copy my SAS code
> from the enhanced editor to TextPad (other plain text editors would work
as
> well), which strips out all the HTML and other bits and bobs. I then copy
> *that* plain text into my post to comp.soft-sys.sas.
>
> Yes, I also admire Joe Kelley and his fortitude and dedication. My
working
> life would be quite different without this list, the collective knowledge
of
> its participants, and the online culture of rendering kind and helpful
> assistance, no matter how simple the question or level of experience of
the
> original poster.
>
> As a comparison, I only hesitantly and with great trepidation post into
> comp.lang.perl.misc, where I usually get abused as to why I don't already
> know the answer to my own question, how can I possibly be SUCH a moronic
> idiot, or why I haven't completely memorized the entire doc set before
> posting. Then, with much fanfare, I'll get a snippet of an answer
(maybe),
> from which I might be able to cobble together a solution. It's a totally
> different online culture there (admittedly the message traffic is also
MUCH
> higher there as well). I believe the friendly online culture here has
much
> to do with this list's success.
>
> Scott
>
>
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