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Date:         Thu, 1 Sep 2005 11:10:51 -0400
Reply-To:     Mike Rhoads <RHOADSM1@WESTAT.COM>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Mike Rhoads <RHOADSM1@WESTAT.COM>
Subject:      Re: RTF Font specification failed
Comments: To: Quentin McMullen <quentin_mcmullen@BROWN.EDU>
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My guess is that Tech Support may be the best resource for this one. I can't "feel your pain" here, because I don't seem to have Times or Palatino installed.

Good luck!

Mike Rhoads Westat

-----Original Message----- From: [] On Behalf Of Quentin McMullen Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 10:57 AM To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: RTF Font specification failed

Hi All,

Well I've confused myself again. : )

It seems (now) that if in v9 I specify "Times New Roman" and "Palatino Linotype", I will get those fonts.

Put if I specify "Times" or "Palatino", they won't work (and SAS will roll-over to a default).

The difference between Times and Times New Roman is small, but the difference between Palatino and Palatino Linotype is larger.

As far as I can tell, these are both True Type fonts (?).

So I guess my questions are: 1. Is it not possible to get SAS to use the (plain old) Times and Palatino? 2. How can I figure out which font names SAS likes/dislikes?

Thanks again, --Quentin

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 08:53:12 -0400, Quentin McMullen <quentin_mcmullen@BROWN.EDU> wrote:

>Many Thanks to Gerhard and Art, > >Changing it does seem to work, but I still find it a little odd. > >I have 2 fonts installed on my PC, one named Times, and the other named >Times New Roman. They look a little different to my eye (as displayed by M$ >Word, but I don't really care too much). > >In v8, the template code I posted below produced an RTF file with the >following font information in the header (which I like): >{\f1\froman\fprq2\fcharset0 Palatino;} >{\f2\froman\fprq2\fcharset0 Times;} > >In v9, the same code produced (don't like): >{\f1\froman\fprq2\fcharset0 Times New Roman;} >{\f2\froman\fprq2\fcharset0 SAS Monospace;} > > >When I switch the v9 template to specify "Times New Roman" rather than just >"Times", the rtf file it produces is: >{\f1\froman\fprq2\fcharset0 Palatino;} >{\f2\froman\fprq2\fcharset0 Times;} > >So I told SAS to use a font names Times New Roman, but SAS wrote an rtf file >specifying Times. > >When I open the rtf file in Word and select text, it shows the font as being >"Times" rather than "Times New Roman". > >Confusing (to me at least), but thanks for the tip. > >--Q. > >On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 04:07:40 -0400, Gerhard Hellriegel ><ghellrieg@T-ONLINE.DE> wrote: > >>I think you have to use "Times New Roman" instead of "Times". Maybe 8.x was >>more tolerant in that names, but I think "Times New Roman" was always the >>name of that font. >> >> >> >> >>On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:16:41 -0400, Quentin McMullen >><quentin_mcmullen@BROWN.EDU> wrote: >> >>>Hi All, >>> >>>Below is a bit of code that runs fine on my PC when I run it in v8, but in >>>9.1.3 when I run it I get: >>> >>>WARNING: Font specification "Times" failed. Using default font family >>>instead. >>> >>>The fact that it runs fine in v8 seems (to me at least) to confirm that my >>>PC does have a font names Times happily installed. >>> >>>Only thought is that v9 SAS somehow doesn't know the font is installed. It >>>was suggested to me that I look into PROC FONTREG, which apparently tells >>>SAS about the available fonts. >>> >>>But in the docs, I see no mention of PROC FONTREG with respect to simple ODS >>>RTF (but does mention ODS PDF, SAS/GRAPH, etc.). Before I charge into PROC >>>FONTREG (which I might be able to swing on my PC, but would me more work for >>>UNIX), thought I'd see if anyone had another thought as to what may be >>going on? >>> >>>**Code: >>>ods path work.templts(update) sashelp.tmplmst(read); >>> >>>proc template; >>> define style mystyle; >>> parent = styles.Printer; >>> replace fonts / >>> 'TitleFont2' = ("Palatino, Verdana, Times",11pt,Bold Italic) >>> 'TitleFont' = ("Palatino, Verdana, Times",11pt,Bold Italic) >>> 'StrongFont' = ("Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times",8pt,Bold) >>> 'EmphasisFont' = ("Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times",8pt,Bold >>>Italic) >>> 'FixedEmphasisFont' = ("Courier",8pt,Italic) >>> 'FixedStrongFont' = ("Courier",8pt,Bold) >>> 'FixedHeadingFont' = ("Courier",8pt,Bold) >>> 'BatchFixedFont' = ("SAS Monospace, Courier",6pt) >>> 'FixedFont' = ("Courier",8pt) >>> 'headingEmphasisFont' = ("Book Antiqua, Palatino, >>>Times",11pt,Bold >>>Italic) >>> 'headingFont' = ("Times",9pt, Bold) >>> 'docFont' = ("Palatino, Times",9pt, Bold) >>> ; >>> >>> style Table from Output / >>> rules = ALL >>> cellpadding = 2pt >>> cellspacing = 0.5pt >>> borderwidth = 1.5pt; >>> end; >>>run; >>> >>> >>>ods listing close; >>>ods rtf file="c:\junk\me.rtf" startpage=yes style=mystyle bodytitle; >>>proc freq data=sashelp.class; >>> tables sex; >>>run; >>>ods rtf close; >>>run; >>> >>>******Partial Log: >>> >>>30 ods listing close; >>>31 ods rtf file="c:\junk\me.rtf" startpage=yes style=mystyle >>>bodytitle; >>>NOTE: Writing RTF Body file: c:\junk\me.rtf >>>32 proc freq data=sashelp.class; >>>33 tables sex; >>> 2 The SAS System 17:16 >>>Wednesday, August 31, 2005 >>> >>>34 run; >>> >>>WARNING: Font specification "Times" failed. Using default font family >>>instead. >>> >>>Kind Regards, >>>--Quentin

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