Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 11:50:28 -0400
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From: Christopher Amherst <camherst@MISER.UMASS.EDU>
Subject: A comment and question - was: Question related to SAS job....need
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Paul Thompson wrote in response to a question from Vicky:
> ALl the H1B visas are used up for the year. Thank goodness for that, BTW.
Personally, I think the sentiment on H1-B visas is disingenuous at best.
People hired on the visas are suppose to be paid at the prevailing wage, so it
doesn't cost a company any less.
And as for taking jobs away from home grown US SAS programmers..
If a company is having to resort to hiring H1-B candidates as their best
possible option, this to me implies the following question -
Who are the SAS programmers within that company, and why aren't they connecting
other "American" SAS programmer candidates to opportunities within the company?
A few months back, I wrote a note inquiring as to whether there was a SAS
career board / mailing list. My reason for doing so was research.
Research as to whether SAS is still a viable career option for someone with a
BS in Computer Science and about 4 years experience using and programming in
I have even took intensive courses in Java & J2EE to position myself to take
advantage of tools now available in SAS 9. However, I cannot tell if I'm well
ahead of the curve of where current SAS usage and integration with Java is or
So let go back to a more generic intent of the question that Vicky asked:
What advice would a SAS programmer give to the following:
1) Is a career in SAS programming viable for anyone who does not have a MS in
Stats. (or Econometrics, Operations Research, Marketing, or Biostatistics)? And
if so, how?
2) Is there an immediate future for SAS/Java programmers or is this cross-
pollination of languages still in it's infancy and thus unlikely to be
significant until 2 to 5 years from now?
3) Various industries (such as Healthcare, Pharma, and Marketing) have demand
for SAS programmers, but how does one gain the skills to be a successful
candidate for positions in those industries? (Reading a book is one thing, but
book knowledge is no substitute in the eyes of an HR Rep for experience)
I personally refuse to argue about the H1-B program when the only viable
position for me that I have seen in recent weeks was an entry level SAS
programming position in Britain.
Signed a 'downsized' American SAS programmer (Cambridge, MA)