Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 05:00:52 -0500
Sender: "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Contemplating career change: SAS vs. Java
There's a market for Java programmers "with SAS experience" and vice versa,
for all those SAS interfaces you want to build without purchasing AppDev.
I'm looking to learn some java at the moment for the above reasons (the
development side, not the carreer change),
There's nothing wrong with multi-skilling, though you do only have one
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 10:37:50 +1100, Waldo
>My apologies if this message is slightly off-topic, but I do believe that
>many of you on the list can provide useful input.
>At a previous stage in my career, I worked extensively with SAS, for a
>of about 10 years. At the risk of sounding conceited, I think I was pretty
>good at it. I am not, however, a statistician. For various reasons, I
>working with SAS in 1997 and pursued web technologies, first in e-commerce
>and currently with web access control, single sign on, and user identity
>management (all very "hot" areas).
>I find, however, that I miss SAS programming, and wish to return to a more
>technical, coding career, rather than a systems architect role, where you
>put the various bits together and configure them, but never have the
>creativity of coding.
>My quandary is that I'm trying to compare a SAS career vs. a Java career.
>While I do know Java, believe that I'm good at it, and like the language,
>on-the-job experience with it is limited - much less that SAS. I believe I
>can return to SAS easily enough (i.e. get a job) but am unsure I can make
>the switch to Java, even with accepting a substantial pay cut to get in the
>door. But, if I'm ever going to try to make the switch to a Java career,
>now is the time. In a few years time I would like to more toward contract
>Furthermore, if I do a job search on the job websites within my current
>market (I live in Sydney, Australia), I get something like 25 hits for SAS
>and 120-180 hits for Java. However, a knowledgeable friend here has said
>that Java programmers have become more of a commodity, and that the pay for
>a good SAS programmer is comparable to that of a good Java programmer. My
>initial conclusion is that, while SAS may be a "niche" skill set, it is a
>viable career path. But, I welcome your feeback.
>My questions to you:
>* do you feel SAS has been a viable career path for you, with appropriate
>room for growth and advancement?
>* do you ever wish you'd specialized in a more broad-based language, such
>C++ or Java, which might have more room for growth (more job opportunities)
>* can you validate my friend's perception that SAS pays as well as Java (I
>know pay isn't everything but I do like both languages)
>* is not being a statistician a hinderance in a SAS career?
>* if you are a hiring manager, would you hire someone who has been away
>SAS for 7 years, but with 10 years of solid SAS experience?
>I'm sure I'll think of other questions after posting this message but those
>are the ones that come to mind right now. Feel free to add any additional
>thoughts you may have.
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