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Date:         Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:14:49 -0500
Reply-To:     Joe Whitehurst <joewhite@mindspring.com>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Joe Whitehurst <joewhite@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject:      Re: RE - Little Birdies fyi
Comments: To: Sigurd Hermansen <HERMANS1@WESTAT.COM>
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Sig:

I take your response to mean that you are either not really interested in satisfying the "incorrigible empiricist" in you or that you don't have access to a high quality university. That's ok with me. I don't think everyone has to be interested in learning something new.

Joe

-----Original Message----- From: Sigurd Hermansen <HERMANS1@WESTAT.COM> Sent: Jan 21, 2004 5:01 PM To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: RE - Little Birdies fyi

Joe: A poster caption response nothing less than a poster caption rejoinder: 'I want to know God's thoughts ... the rest are details. When the solution is simple, God is answering.' A. Einstein

Unfortunately this banter has already tried the patience of those who are looking for answers to real questions: 'Quite frankly, I think this thread has outlived its usefulness. Let it die.' H. Droogendyk

-----Original Message----- From: Joe Whitehurst [mailto:joewhite@MINDSPRING.COM] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:19 PM To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: RE - Little Birdies fyi

Sig:

How much material are you prepared to read to satisfy the incorrigible empiricist in you? Do you have access to a high quality university library?

Joe

"The greatest empiricists among us are only empiricists on reflection. When left to their instincts they dogmatize like infallible popes."

W. James

-----Original Message----- From: Sigurd Hermansen <HERMANS1@WESTAT.com> Sent: Jan 21, 2004 4:12 PM To: 'Joe Whitehurst' <joewhite@mindspring.com>, SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: RE: RE - Little Birdies fyi

Joe: The incorrigible empiricist in me would like to see evidence that supports that theory (other than what a program built on that premise might report). Sig

-----Original Message----- From: Joe Whitehurst [mailto:joewhite@MINDSPRING.COM] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:06 PM To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: RE - Little Birdies fyi

I agree. I also think a person's egocentric verbal behavior follows him everywhere just like his brain, stomach and liver!

-----Original Message----- From: Dale McLerran <stringplayer_2@YAHOO.COM> Sent: Jan 21, 2004 4:01 PM To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: RE - Little Birdies fyi

--- Joe Whitehurst <joewhite@MINDSPRING.COM> wrote: > Toby, > > This is a good question. One way of answering the question is that > the more posts analyzed the better. An analogy might be the behavior > of a hologram. Each post would represent a piece of the hologram > (still has the whole picture only vastly fainter). As you add more > pieces the pieced together hologram begins to approximate the whole > hologram. A lifetime of postings would represent the whole hologram. >

Hardly! A person's behavior here on SAS-L is not the whole of who they are. And, even if we are just looking at their SAS-L behavior, it is still just a sample of the posts that they would have made if 1) they had not been away from SAS-L for vacation when some topic came up that they would have otherwise responded to, 2) they had not reviewed other replies and found that their own contribution would have been redundant, 3) they were mortal and could not continue to give replies from the grave. The postings that a person makes are only a sample of the postings that they should have/would have/could have made. As such, you can never think that you have the whole picture, although I would admit that you get closer and closer with each additional piece which you evaluate.

BTW, there is a field of study devoted to this topic: it is called statistics!

Dale

===== --------------------------------------- Dale McLerran Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center mailto: dmclerra@fhcrc.org Ph: (206) 667-2926 Fax: (206) 667-5977 ---------------------------------------

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