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Date:   Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:43:23 -0700
Reply-To:   Jack Hamilton <JackHamilton@FIRSTHEALTH.COM>
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From:   Jack Hamilton <JackHamilton@FIRSTHEALTH.COM>
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I'm not sure that "shooting from the hip" (something I do fairly often) is necessarily a bad thing. Giving the original poster a clue, without an exact solution, is sometimes enough.

I don't think that "number of posts" has ever been taken as an indicator of quality. It's just an interesting number. I've presented the poster totals during the SAS-L BOF at SUGI the last few years; I've never thought of it as an indicator of quality, and comments at the BOF lead me to think that no one else does either.

-- JackHamilton@FirstHealth.com Manager, Technical Development Metrics Department, First Health West Sacramento, California USA

>>> "pudding man" <pudding_man@MAIL.COM> 01/21/2004 8:48 AM >>> I'm not at all sure why anyone would automagically assume that frequency of posts should be an indicator of total quality of posts by a sas-l participant. Is this some sort of collective sas-l illusion (it's been going on for years?)? If so, what is it's origin?

Has noone seen instances in which frequency of posts was inversely related to the total quality of posts rendered by a particular poster? Examples might be folks who "shoot from the hip" and/or post untested/half-baked code.

I realize that "quality" can be difficult to quantify. But aren't the reported frequencies attempting to quantify the non-quantifiable?

On a scale of 0-100 (where 100 is 100%), to what extent is "quality" even an issue with the various awards? Obviously it is relevant, but to what extent? Think carefully now, and consider all the possibilities ... <g>

Prost, Puddin'

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-----Original Message----- From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Fehd, Ronald J. (PHPPO) Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 6:13 PM To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU

Subject: SAS-L 2003 From

The Year in Review, a relatively short list of people to consider for MVS, LROY, FOSL, etc. at the annual SAS-L BOF: Birds of a Feather (I didn't make up that acronym, so don't ask -me- why.)

NOTE: THISYEAR._2003 has 21,387 posts from all over the world NOTE: WORK.FROM has 1,472 people or e-addresses

MVS : Most Valuable SAS-L (contributor) HOF : Hall of Fame (voted MVS twice) LROY: SAS-L Rookie/Year: New Person known for both Q & A FOSL: Friend of SAS-L

and The Usual Suspects are:

Obs FROM COUNT PERCENT 1 ... 673 3.14677 HOF 2 DavidLCassell 614 2.87090 HOF 3 HowardSchreier 476 2.22565 4 IanWhitlock 460 2.15084 HOF 5 PeterCrawford 406 1.89835 HOF 6 HuangYa 385 1.80016 MVS 7 JackHamilton 385 1.80016 8 JimGroeneveld 374 1.74873 9 RichardADeVenezia 300 1.40272 10 PaulDorfman 279 1.30453 HOF

11 Roland 273 1.27648 12 SigurdHermansen 256 1.19699 13 DaleMcLerran 239 1.11750 14 PaulChoate 236 1.10347 15 CharlesPatridge 214 1.00061 16 DennisDiskin 204 0.95385 17 DroogendykHarry 202 0.94450 18 PrasadSRavi 199 0.93047 19 VenkyChakravarthy 183 0.85566 20 JohnWhittington 159 0.74344

21 KevinMyers 159 0.74344 LROY 2003 22 ArtoRaiskio 158 0.73877 23 RogerLustig 157 0.73409 24 SASUser 153 0.71539 25 AndreWielki 140 0.65460 26 JayWeedon 134 0.62655 27 PeterFlom 124 0.57979 28 ChangYChung 120 0.56109 29 WilliamWViergever 117 0.54706 30 GerhardHellriegel 105 0.49095

31 RandyHerbison 105 0.49095 32 MarkTerjeson 101 0.47225 33 EdHeaton 97 0.45355 34 MichaelLDavis 90 0.42082 35 MikeRhoads 89 0.41614 36 ArthurTabachneck 88 0.41146 37 KevinViel 87 0.40679 LROY 2002 38 LexJansen 81 0.37873 39 StigEide 77 0.36003

40 WilliamKossack 77 0.36003 41 MarkLamias 76 0.35536 42 PaulThompson 76 0.35536 43 RobertAbelson 74 0.34600 44 FJKelley 73 0.34133 FOSL 2003 45 GregWoolridge 70 0.32730 46 ZibaoZhang 69 0.32263 47 DianneRhodes 67 0.31327

A baker's dozen of people had multiple addresses which I did my best to wedge into the same name for this PROC Frequency.

My apologies if I have under-counted anyone.

Who remembers all of the MVS and HOF? I will surely sit corrected by the end of the week.

Ron Fehd the 673 (3.14%) maven CDC Atlanta GA USA RJF2@cdc.gov

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