|Date: ||Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:12:22 -0500|
|Reply-To: ||"Bosch, Jules [PRDUS Non J&J]" <JBosch1@PRDUS.JNJ.COM>|
|Sender: ||"SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>|
|From: ||"Bosch, Jules [PRDUS Non J&J]" <JBosch1@PRDUS.JNJ.COM>|
|Subject: ||Re: internship - pharmaceutical companies..help..|
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Getting into the pharmaceutical industry (clinical) in NJ, where there many
pharmaceutical companies and many, many SAS programmers, is virtually
impossible without pharmaceutical (clinical) experience. This is a classic
Catch-22 situation. However, there are a few ways to get into the industry.
But first some fundamental requirements for working in the pharmaceutical
industry. These are: You are well educated, you are not a SAS beginner, you
speak and write English well, you have good communications skills, you are a
good team player, you work well under brief periods of pressure towards
difficult deadlines, you are not afraid to ask questions, and you are a
Ways of getting into the industry include:
1. Have an "Angel." Do you know someone in the industry who could make a
strong recommendation on your behalf? This could be a friend, relative, or
mentor who is in a position that allows him or her to "pull some strings."
There is nothing wrong with this approach, especially if you quickly become
an asset. If you meet most of the above requirements you will certainly fit
in and become an asset in a short period of time.
2. Work for a clinical research organization ( CRO). CROs perform clinical
studies or segments of clinical studies under contract for pharmaceutical
firms. They work with a wide variety of pharmaceutical companies and varied
SAS requirements. Your experience here will probably grow faster that at a
full-blown pharmaceutical firm because there will be less programmers and
more work. Pressures at a CRO will most likely be greater, too. But, you
will be gaining invaluable pharmaceutical experience.
Some NJ-based CROs include:
Quintiles (Not sure if the NJ office (Cranford) does programming)
Covance (Princeton area)
PharmaNet (Princeton area)
Pharmaco (Princeton area)
Advanced Biologics (Lambertville)
3. If you have skills beyond SAS (Oracle, DB2, etc.), find an ancillary
position in the industry which would allow you to get your foot in the door.
An example may be found at -
4. Find an agency that may be able to get you into the industry. This
won't be easy but if you have more to offer than most SAS programmers the
agency might be willing to take a chance with you. Exuding strong
confidence in yourself and your programming abilities is important here.
Look at DICE.COM for an agency.
Most SAS positions in the pharmaceutical industry are filled through the HR
department. And it seems today that most of these requirements are simply
passed on to agencies. The HR departments and agencies work with very
little latitude (they demand clinical experience) which is why having a
personal contact at a pharmaceutical firm or agency would be a great
From: sasuser [mailto:meera126@HOTMAIL.COM]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:49 AM
Subject: internship - pharmaceutical companies..help..
I have work experience on Unix/C/sybase/SAS with financial industries.
As the market is down, there are not job openings with financial industries
I am looking for a career change.
Are there any pharmaceutical companies that hire
people ( who have IT experience but no pharmaceutical industry experience)
internship or train people who wants to enter into pharmaceutical field as
an IT programmer??
Any useful leads are welcome.