Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:51:08 -0500
Reply-To: Kevin Myers <KevinMyers@AUSTIN.RR.COM>
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From: Kevin Myers <KevinMyers@AUSTIN.RR.COM>
Subject: Re: http://www.shadowyproblems.com/SAS/
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Good points Charles, and thanks for posting. I stand corrected.
s/KAM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Patridge" <Charles_S_Patridge@PRODIGY.NET>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.sas-l
To: <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: http://www.shadowyproblems.com/SAS/
> Dear Shadowy,
>
> I think I understand why you did what you did, and the reason(s) you did
it.
> But, you could have done the exact same thing by creating links directly
to
> the source without having to copy them to your site and giving your web
> visitors the impression these pages and contents were something you put
> together, or acquired the necessary approvals to host them on your site.
>
> My first impression of your site was "great work" and it must have taken
you
> a lot of time to assemble its contents. Then, I noticed that much of the
> content was copied from other web sites, including mine. If you had
> asked for permission to link to the contents to SCONSIG.com web site, I
> would have freely provided that approval. However, I would not have given
> approval to copy large "chunks" of content to your site without asking the
> original authors for their approval.
>
> Plus, I am sure you are very aware of how much time it takes to assemble
> such materials, organize its layout, convert the material to html or PDF
> format for all to see and share - literally hundreds (possible thousands)
> of manhours to do so.
>
> How would you feel if someone came along and just copied your works of art
> from your web site and "placed" them to their site and displayed them for
> the public to see and use, and give the impression they (not you) were
> responsible for all the work involved in making it available ?
>
> I do not think you would be pleased, especially if it were not obvious who
> the "real creator(s)" were of this material - that is, making authorship
> public - including those responsible for making it public.
>
> Now, if you wanted an easy way to have all these references available to
> yourself - then burning such materials to a CD seems a very effective way
to
> "carry" this stuff around with you wherever you go. But publishing this
on
> the web as you did, gives the impression that you are responsible for
> assembling these documents.
>
> So, I would appreciate it very much if you could remove the contents you
> copied from SCONSIG.com and if you wish, you may provide the necessary
links
> to the materials you wish to reference on the SCONSIG.com web site.
>
> I am very positive that SAS Institute Inc. Lawyers would be upset to see
> their materials posted on your site without their approval. I know I have
> asked them for such approvals and was told links are OK but the materials
> belong to SAS Institute Inc. and must NOT be copied.
>
> Let me know what you have decided to do so that I can act accordingly.
>
> Regards,
> Charles Patridge
>
>
> Shadowy wrote:
>
> Yes, I am aware of that, but they are there for me to use as reference,
> the site is not published nor is it promoted anywhere, the site it was
> copied is difficult to navigate and hard to find some of the better
> material, hence I put it together so that I could find what I needed
> when I was out of my house and needed to refer to something without
> needing to lug around a lot of reference books that would probably go
> unused for the most part.
>
> What is it that u feel needs to be done? I don't believe I have removed
> any of the stated copyright markings, it should still be tributed to the
> correct people.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Patridge [mailto:Charles_S_Patridge@prodigy.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:40 PM
> To: CyberReaper
> Subject: When you were offline...(via HumanClick)
>
> To Whom It May Concern,
>
> Are you aware that you have "copied" a number of web pages and content
> that may violate copyright laws???
>
> Specifically, I am referring to a large number of web pages that you
> have "copied" from the SCONSIG.com website without permission of the
> owner of that site???
>
> I would like to confer with you on this issue and settle upon an
> agreeable resolution.
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