|Date: ||Thu, 5 Sep 2002 00:28:04 -0400|
|Reply-To: ||"John J Genzano, III" <jgenzano@GENZANO.COM>|
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|From: ||"John J Genzano, III" <jgenzano@GENZANO.COM>|
|Subject: ||Re: SAS 2 COBOL|
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You are talking probably a minimum of 10 to 1 programmer productivity
advantage for SAS vs. COBOL. It takes a SERIOUS run-time advantage to
make that difference up. And that does not include getting COBOL to do
the things people want that SAS does and COBOL doesn't (what effort is
required to turn your COBOL output into a WEB page?). Anybody who thinks
in this day and age that they are going to be saving money by using
people at the expense of machine cycles doesn't belong running a shop.
John J Genzano, III
Genzano Software Consulting
SAS Certified Professional, V6
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1759
From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: SAS 2 COBOL
I can think of several hundred thousand of them. The high cost of SAS
forcing both large and small mainframe operations to put SAS only on
smallest footprint in order to save licensing costs. This situation is
exacerbated by the fact that observed efficiency is getting worse
of better in moving from v6 to v8. This situation is perfectly
to the SAS Institute, as they expect an increase of 7% - 10% run time
the exact same code.
The reduced development time of SAS needs to be balanced with the
longer run time (compared with COBOL or PL/I)--how often does the job
to be maintained vs. how often is it run? Of course, all of this can be
offset by the statistical functionality of SAS, but for straight data
manipulation, other languages do just as good if not better.
If you can create a macro that will convert SAS code to COBOL code, I
you'll be sitting on a gold mine. I'll be first in line to invest...
As a bit of advice, if you have PL/I, the syntax is very similar to
it's much less of a struggle than COBOL if it's available. Good luck!
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:59:21 -0400, John J Genzano, III
>Why would you want to??
>John J Genzano, III
>Genzano Software Consulting
>SAS Certified Professional, V6
>"Living in the past is a dull and lonely business; looking back strains
>the neck muscles, causes you to bump into people not going your way." -
>From: SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
>Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 2:32 PM
>Subject: SAS 2 COBOL
>Does anyone, please, know if there is available any MACRO or
>shareware/software that can translate SAS code into COBOL. Please,
>Your help is appreciated.