Please permit me my 2 cents worth.

Let us remember that SAS intended market for this particular product was not the folks who are on this list. Here is an extract from the SAS web site:

. . . . . . . . perfect tool for you to discover the power of SAS. . . . . . .

While I would not describe it as perfect, the key word here is "discover." This product was intended to allow folks (e.g., students) who do not have SAS, and can not get access to it, to get some exposure to the product so that they might be able to develop some SAS skills. I can't comment on whether LE is going to be successfull in that market because I already know SAS, as do most of the folks on this list.

So while the comments posted here by experienced SAS folks are certainly understandable, I hope that SAS concentrates its efforts on making sure LE will enable folks who don't know SAS to get some experince with it. The more folks who know about SAS and can use it, the better. And this tool will hopefully enable that.

Regards, Don Henderson

p.s., I do agree that perhaps Viewtable should have been included - or at least some tool to view a table of data. Perhaps it could be offered in tandem with the SAS Viewer (which can be freely downloaded from the SAS site).

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Myers" <KevinMyers@AUSTIN.RR.COM> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.sas-l To: <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: Re: SAS LE (Re: Confused on the implementation of the 1000 row limit on SAS tables)

> Hi folks - > > On further thought, I'm afraid that I may have offended some of the more > sensitive and well-menaing souls at SAS with the perhaps inadvisable choice > of wording in my last email on this subject. Though it is true that I'm > quite frustrated with the 1000 obs limit and the lack of viewtable in SAS > LE, I only meant the specific choice of words that I used in fun, and must > apologize if I hurt anyones feelings by stating my opinions on this subject > quite so strongly. I still stand behind my opinions on this matter for all > of the reasons that I listed in prior postings, but I'll try not to get > quite as carried away with my wording in the future. > > As others including myself have previously noted, it IS nice that SAS > released LE at all, even if it isn't everthing that I believe it ought to > be. > > Kevin M. >

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> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <dkb@CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK> > > Newsgroups: bit.listserv.sas-l > > To: <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> > > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 2:39 PM > > Subject: Re: SAS LE (Re: Confused on the implementation of the 1000 row > > limit on SAS tables) > > > > > > > Kevin, et. al., > > > > > > After my first week looking at the software, IMO the bottom line is > > > simply this: SAS LE, so called, is the "lite" version of Enterprise > > > Guide, not the "lite" version of SAS at all. To its target market, the > > > 1000 obs limit is not really significant: the presentation layer rather > > > than the data crunching is what it's intended to demonstrated. > > > > > > It's disappointing to us old hacks not to have something more fully > > > featured, but it's a big step for the Institute to offer anything like > > > this at all. At least now I can syntax check my suggestions to SAS-L > > > while I'm not on contract. :) > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Dave > > > . >