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Date:         Sat, 4 May 2002 10:04:10 -0400
Reply-To:     Dwight Eggers <res09ag5@VERIZON.NET>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Dwight Eggers <res09ag5@VERIZON.NET>
Subject:      Re: what is wrong with this picture -- comments on
              interviewingcandidates
Comments: To: Don Stanley <don_stanley@XTRA.CO.NZ>

Hi Don,

I sincerely apologize that I have offended you by my public response to this thread. My message was meant more as a general comment on the value of these kinds of quiz questions that regularly appear on SAS-L. It was not meant as an attack on your list, or you personally.

As you have explained, the project needs and the required skill set is unique for each situation. It would appear that your list, and the judgements used in interpreting the responses, have met your needs. There is little on your list, though, that I would use, and if I was confronted with this list as an interviewee I might sit back and wonder. As you explain, the discussion that accompanies the interviewees response and the discretion in the grading, is really more important than the first response. It appears that your list had served more as a basis for discussion, rather than a scorecard, which I subscribe to.

I am not going to respond point by point to your last post. I think you have have explained the background of your list and defended its items very well.

All that I meant my "buggy" is that something does not function as intended, not that it fails to compile. These are the insidious problems like the missing "&", misusing macro logic, etc. Again, my statement was not directed specifically at your list.

One point that caught my attention is "Anything documented and usable ... is not obscure". I agree, but is it fair game for a closed-book quiz? When it comes to SAS syntax, I think that the best measure of a candidate who claims to be an experienced SAS programmer would be to examine their Base SAS manual. I expect to see something that is dog-eared, tabbed, pages falling out, cross-references in the margins, etc. If they have had to transfer it to a binder, they would get extra credit. (I vaguely recall that this idea has appeared on the list before, so I make no claim of originality). Being able to find something in the documentation is much more important than total recall. If they don't bring their own copy along, offer them yours, and see how adept they are at finding what they need. These syntax matters are so superficial though -- again, just my opinion.

"Vague and ambiguous" obviously is not your style, but I perceive that you might be a little thin skinned. I suspect that you would not want me working on your team, and I probably would not be disappointed.

Dwight


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