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Date:   Tue, 2 Apr 2002 11:51:49 -0500
Reply-To:   "Fehd, Ronald J." <rjf2@CDC.GOV>
Sender:   "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:   "Fehd, Ronald J." <rjf2@CDC.GOV>
Subject:   Re: First Time SUGI
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NOTE: long: six screens

> From: Dianne Rhodes [mailto:RHODESD1@WESTAT.COM]

> Talk to people.

<shudder>

> I'm an INFP (introvert) on Myers Briggs

Me, too. I highly recommend taking the Myers Briggs. This site provides a useful explanation of the 2**4 types http://www.typelogic.com/

Skip over the Kiersey url at the top and check thru the rest of these: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=myers+briggs&spell=1

Folks at NESUG did a presentation on the book: Type Talk at Work http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0440509289/qid=1017764455/sr=12-1/002 -6120461-6996863

> and an Enneagram 5. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Enneagram

> Dianne's Enneagram recommendations: http://www.authenticenneagram.com/

> Type 5: > Attention/Coping Strategy: Protecting self from intrusion > and demands by cutting off feelings. > Focusing attention on intrusions and detaching to observe. > Becoming self-sufficient, seeking privacy, limiting desires.

> Or this one is even better: http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/home.asp

> 5 THE INVESTIGATOR > The Intense, Cerebral Type: Perceptive, Innovative, Secretive, > and Isolated > The Five with a Six-Wing: "The Problem Solver"

D'oh! Aren't we -all- Problem Solvers?!

> I would rather hide in my room than be in a room full of strangers.

<tsk, tsk> Ah, convincing Introverts that: Friends = Stranger + TimeSpentTalking;

And, for all those Introverts who are still struggling with their FrozenWithFear attitudes, I want to assure you that some of these extrovert skills -can- be learned. Some of you might -never- guess that I'm -Formerly-Shy. ;-)

<sigh> What getting past your 49th birthday will do for you!

> My first SUGI was Nashville and I had just started at Westat. > I spent most of my time with Westaters.

My first SUGI was in San Francisco. I didn't know there were other people from CDC. I wore my suit, because 'business attire' was expected.

The next year, I brought my running shoes. Ah, those sprints from one side of the conference center to the other. Back in the Good Ole Daze, the Proceedings were shipped to you, -after- the conference! Think: Six weeks?! The task of the hour was to get a copy of the presenter's paper -in-hand.

Gee Whiz! Now a days: "Got CD?"

> My second SUGI was Miami Beach ... > I did meet many SAS-L notables, including > Paul Dorfman and Ron Fehd.

Just a reminder that she works downstairs from Ian Whitlock. Still, I made it to the Top Two. ;-) Getting close!

> At Indianapolis, I went to hear > Ron Fehd's presentation on Style sheets

"... which some may find extreme." she said.

>(I had faxed him my stuff on standards)

for which I was grateful.

> and on a whim,

The stories women tell about their Intuition!

> I followed him into the cafeteria > and boldly asked

Remember she's an Introvert! Same type as I am!

> if I could eat lunch with him. > The rest is herstory.

and quite a bit of his-story, as well.

Shall we tell them the SQL we whisper to each other? AutoMagic, that SQL! <ggl>

> And I am _NOT_ wearing mouse ears!

ROFLMAO

> Last year, Ron and I found a nice place to grab a salad and a > glass of wine to stave off starvation (his) before the parties.

Look at this! She's bragging about -my- being High Maintenance!

> Don't stay up too late.

Yeow! Where were you with this advice to my Section Chair about the Queen Mary Kick-Back Party?

Wed 4 am, Section Chair hits the bed. Wed 8 am, Fehd is waiting for the PC with his presentation to show up. Has to give his own introduction, while he is bailed out by Session Coordinator, who goes to car to get his PC, and Dianne who fetches disk with presentation.

Moral: Have Disk w/Presentation, Will Travel.

> Try to get over to the conference area early and get started.

What Ben Franklin said: "Early to bed, early to rise, ..."

> And expect the unexpected, have fun!

You, too, could meet a tongue-tied Introvert, stand around for a long enough time waiting for the -other- to say something intelligent, finally give up in frustration, and blurt out something like: "Going my way? To lunch?"

As I said, these Extrovert skills -can- be learned.

Ron Fehd the Dianne Rhodes maven CDC Atlanta GA USA RJF2@cdc.gov

If you always try to be logical, you probably won't ever have much sorrow, or much fun. -- Ashleigh Brilliant pot-shot #4438


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