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Date:         Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:02:07 -0600
Reply-To:     greg.woolridge@TAP.COM
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         Greg  Woolridge <greg.woolridge@TAP.COM>
Subject:      Re: is 12:00 AM noon or midnight ?
Comments: To: Peter Crawford <peter.crawford@DB.COM>
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To the best of my knowledge, noon has always been 12:00 pm and midnight has always been 12:00 am, in all situations, not just programming. I think this is what I was taught waaaaaay back in grade school when I first learned to tell time.

Greg M. Woolridge Manager, Study Programming TAP Pharmaceutical Products Inc. e-mail: greg.woolridge@tap.com phone: 847-582-2332 fax: 847-582-2403

Peter Crawford <peter.crawford@ To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU DB.COM> cc: Sent by: "SAS(r) Subject: is 12:00 AM noon or midnight ? Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV. UGA.EDU>

03/20/02 06:29 AM Please respond to Peter Crawford

I was brought up to understand noon and midnight, so find the concept of 12am and 12pm very difficult ! When asked the question: "when is 12:00 pm?" I had to resort to SAS (sad)...... and it produced this log

1 %put %sysfunc( putn( '12:00:00't, timeampm)); 12:00:00 PM 2 %put %sysfunc( putn( '24:00:00't, timeampm)); 12:00:00 AM

Is this a standard convention ? Is it the same standard in different applications, eg M$-Office Sun-Java In French "midi et minuit" eliminates any confusion Have other languages a simple difinition for 12:00 AM ?

When was any AM/PM standard for noon and midnight introduced ?

awaiting your input with interest

Peter Crawford

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