Diane & Deborah,

To help solve the problem of the lines being too 'fine' (thin) look into adding TARGETDEVICE='your printer' to your goptions statement. This option will allow you to see on screen what the graph will look like before you print to a specific printer. Another option, that I regularly use, is to output your graphs to *.CGM files for WordPerfect or another software package and resize and print from there. I rarely print a SAS/Graph directly from the SAS display screen, they never come out right.

Also, Diane, don't give up on SAS/Graph too quickly. I have used other packages and they really don't have the same flexibility as SAS/Graph. Once you develop some base programs with a good setup of goptions that work for you I think you'll find that you can create graphs fairly quickly just by changing the programs slightly. Also remember that very few graphics programs will ever give you the ability to tweak a graph like you can if you use the ANNOTATE datasets with SAS/Graph. Hope this helps.

Brian Tift

-----Original Message----- From: Diane Edwards [mailto:dredward@INTERCHANGE.UBC.CA] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 11:53 AM To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: printing graphs

Hello,

Do you mean 'Fine' is not Fine, Fine is lines too thin and faint!!!!

Yeah I have the same problem when I generate graphs in SAS 8. I've sort of gotten around it by trial and error specifying very large line sizes but it's not really satisfactory. In the goptions I don't specify a 'device' so that might be part of my problem. Any suggestions would also be appreciated by me.

Warning: So I have to vent here. I'm also a long time SAS user, although I not as 'hard core' as most on the list. I have to admit to being very fustrated with SAS 8, so many new features that seem ackward to use- unstatisfactory in their application and I don't find the online doc that helpful. My institution (Univ of British Columbia) doesn't offer any support, that I know of. I'm so happy to find this group.

I wondering if SAS is not for me anymore. I'm a grad. student who does the standard stuff stats stuff, ANOVA, regression (sometimes on very large data sets) and who needs good quality graphs. I'm staring to think that if I have to export my data/results to a graphic's package to get decent graphs then perhaps I'm using the wrong package.

Any thoughts, suggestions. Thanks.

Deborah Wentworth wrote:

>Greetings - > >I'm a long-time SAS user, but a brand spanking new SAS user on a PC. I'm >used to UNIX, and this new point-n-click environment is so... Microsofty. > >I'm trying to print my first Kaplan Meier graph, and despite sending the >output to various PostScript printers, what I see is not what I get. On the >screen, I've produced pleasantly plump lines on my graph. When it comes off >the printer, the lines are all fine. > >Is there an easy solution? > >Thanks in advance for your help - > >Deborah Wentworth >

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