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Date:         Mon, 8 Oct 2001 09:19:49 -0400
Reply-To:     John Jones <jonesj@PHARMARESEARCH.COM>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         John Jones <jonesj@PHARMARESEARCH.COM>
Subject:      Re: omitted observations in Factoranalysis?
Comments: To: Gijs Dekkers <gd@PLAN.BE>
In-Reply-To:  <3BC1A191.246BC775@plan.be>
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Gijs,

The warning is referring to the weight statement variable wndsh7sc. 183 of the observations are <0? The values associated with these weights cannot be used. The "!" symbol is there because the var statement list of variables wrap onto the next line.

John

At 02:52 PM 10/8/01 +0200, Gijs Dekkers wrote: >--------------CFCD184267248AC7F7B68BD6 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Dear All, > >Can anyone explain this? > >I am running a factoranalysis on a household-dataset where the >observations with missing variables have been left out. The relevant >section of the log-file >is: > >163 proc factor data=datin >164 method=principal >165 /*method=ml*/ >166 scree >167 mineigen=0 >168 priors=asmc >169 rotate=promax >170 nfactors=3 >171 nocorr >172 /*plot*/ >173 outstat=factout >174 out=datuitF ; >175 weight wndsh7sc ; >176 var eqHHink_in spreken sarm cowoko garbeid gzoek is_maxong1 >176! is_wcomfort >177 is_maxong2 is_opl1 is_opl2 is_tevr is_socint1 is_socint2 >177! is_socint3 ; >178 run ; > >WARNING: 183 of 2854 observations in data set WORK.DATIN omitted due > to nonpositive weight or truncated frequency. >NOTE: 3 factors will be retained by the NFACTOR criterion. >NOTE: There were 2854 observations read from the dataset WORK.DATIN. >NOTE: The data set WORK.FACTOUT has 55 observations and 17 variables. >NOTE: The data set WORK.DATUITF has 2854 observations and 31 > variables. >NOTE: PROCEDURE FACTOR used: > real time 0.22 seconds > >It is this warning which I do not get. Appearantly, 183 or 2854 >observations are not used, but when I look at the output-file (DATUITF, >which has 2854 observations), there are no observations where the >FACTOR1-FACTOR3 are missing. Does this mean that no observations were >left out of the analysis? > >Moreover, does anyone know where the exclamation marks in the Log-file >(lines 176 and177) come from? (no, they were not in the command-file). > >Any help would be appreciated, because warnings like this make me very >suspicious ... > >Gijs > >-- >dr. Gijs Dekkers >Federal Planning Bureau >Algemene Directie >Kunstlaan 47-49 >B 1000 Brussels, Belgium >++32/(0)2/5077413 >fax 7373 > > >--------------CFCD184267248AC7F7B68BD6 >Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ><!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> >Dear All, > >Can anyone explain this? > >I am running a factoranalysis on a household-dataset where the >observations with missing variables have been left out. The relevant >section of the log-file >is: > >163 proc factor data=datin >164 method=principal >165 /*method=ml*/ >166 scree >167 mineigen=0 >168 priors=asmc >169 rotate=promax >170 nfactors=3 >171 nocorr >172 /*plot*/ >173 outstat=factout >174 out=datuitF ; >175 weight wndsh7sc ; >176 var eqHHink_in spreken sarm cowoko garbeid gzoek is_maxong1 >176! is_wcomfort >177 is_maxong2 is_opl1 is_opl2 is_tevr is_socint1 is_socint2 >177! is_socint3 ; >178 run ; > >WARNING: 183 of 2854 observations in data set WORK.DATIN omitted due > to nonpositive weight or truncated frequency. >NOTE: 3 factors will be retained by the NFACTOR criterion. >NOTE: There were 2854 observations read from the dataset WORK.DATIN. >NOTE: The data set WORK.FACTOUT has 55 observations and 17 variables. >NOTE: The data set WORK.DATUITF has 2854 observations and 31 > variables. >NOTE: PROCEDURE FACTOR used: > real time 0.22 seconds > >It is this warning which I do not get. Appearantly, 183 or 2854 >observations are not used, but when I look at the output-file (DATUITF, >which has 2854 observations), there are no observations where the >FACTOR1-FACTOR3 are missing. Does this mean that no observations were left >out of the analysis? > >Moreover, does anyone know where the exclamation marks in the Log-file >(lines 176 and177) come from? (no, they were not in the command-file). > >Any help would be appreciated, because warnings like this make me very >suspicious ... > >Gijs > >-- >dr. Gijs Dekkers >Federal Planning Bureau >Algemene Directie >Kunstlaan 47-49 >B 1000 Brussels, Belgium >++32/(0)2/5077413 >fax 7373 > >--------------CFCD184267248AC7F7B68BD6--

John T. Jones -- Phone: (910) 509-4814 -- JonesJ@PharmaResearch.com

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