Date:         Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:37:55 +1100
Reply-To:     "Karsten M. Self" <karsten@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Sender:       "SAS(r) Discussion" <SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
From:         "Karsten M. Self" <karsten@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Google acquires DEJA comp.soft-sys.sas
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              Charles_S_Patridge@PRODIGY.NET on Wed, Feb 14,
              2001 at 11:47:33AM -0500
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on Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 11:47:33AM -0500, Charles Patridge (Charles_S_Patridge@PRODIGY.NET) wrote:
> Hi Ed,
> 
> Yeah, I found this out on Monday of this week.
> 
> I found a few alternatives which are not quite as good as Deja but are
> definitely better than Google who currently is only going to refresh their
> list of SAS-L once a day.

For anyone following this thread:

  - Google have added heirarchical browsing and view thread to their
    Usenet search.

  - Posting remains unavailable and likely will for some time, though
    it's on the feature list.

  - Current updates are once daily, though this is likely to increase
    over time.

  - Current archives are through 2000, though backlogs through 1995 (and
    prior?) are to be added.


I've mentioned my severe disappointment with Deja (formerly DejaNews) in
the past -- they were once a useful search engine.  For the past two
years or so I've only found the service usable when mediated by a third
party web interface or command line utilities.

I've written more on the recent aquisition at LinuxToday:

  http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn/2001-02-22-003-04-PS-CY-0007

I've also suggested in the past, to Deja and SI, that SI might be
interested in seeing that the SAS-L archive be made and remain available
through a third-party resource such as Deja.  I'd encourage SI and its
tech support branch to contact Google and find out if there is any way
SI might be able to provide assistance in maintaining the SAS-L archive,
and/or providing historical archives dating to the formation of SAS-L.

There's also a FAQ with status and issues at Google's website.

  http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/help.html

Cheers.

-- 
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