Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:46:51 GMT
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From: Charles Patridge <Charles_S_Patridge@PRODIGY.NET>
Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy.
Subject: Re: Netscape 6 and Frames
Obviously I have opened myself to criticism <grin>
I chose Frames for my main introduction to my web site as it was
somewhat intuitive to have a Table of Contents on the Left, and the main
viewing window on the Right, with a smaller window on the bottom to
allow corporate sponsors to show their logos and at the same time to
generate some monies to keep my site up and running as well as donate
over 50% of the revenues to charitable organizations.
With the advent of Netscape 6 coming to production, I may have to
re-think how to re-design my site which I would prefer to leave asis
unless Netscape People can tell me what I might be doing wrong in my
Frame HTML code to make Netscape 6 misbehave. Otherwise, I will need
to go to the drawing boards and play with FrontPage 2000.
As for the backgrounds, I apologize if I have offended any of you with
the colors on the main web page. Everywhere else I tried to stick to
is a light colored background with dark lettering - and in some cases,
have chosen to play with some of the font styles or sizes (my
apologies). I did not know I was hurting your surfing experience while
visiting my site.
I have always tried to appease anyone who had suggestions that seemed
reasonable, so if you have some constructive comments, please forward
them onto me.
Pardon me while I start playing with FrontPage 2000. I just preferred
to do HTML coding using NotePad and make life easier on myself as well
as save a lot of unnecessary <tags> and disk space from all the extras
that most packages create when developing web pages.
Regards and apologies,
PS, if any of you happen to know why my opening frame page makes
Netscape 6 misbehave, I would appreciate you sharing that knowledge with
The four major pages at the top of my web site design are as follows:
http://www.sconsig.com/index.htm (the one that creates the frames)
http://www.sconsig.com/aaatoc.htm (my Table of Contents page)
http://www.sconsig.com/sconsig.htm (main viewing window and contents)
http://www.sconsig.com/sponsors.htm (lower window for sponsored logos)
Thanks in advance
In article <20001129150429.B2533@ix.netcom.com>,
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> I tend to strongly dislike frames and discourage their use, in
> I'd strongly recommend taking a look at Jakob Nielsen's UseIT page, on
> usability in IT: http://www.useit.com/. He keeps an archive of over
> five years worth of rants, most of which are still on-mark and
> In particular:
> - Why Frames Suck (most of the time)=20
> - Top Ten Mistakes in Web Design
> - "Top Ten Mistakes" Revisted Three Years Later
> - Top Ten New Mistakes of Web Design
> Though Nielsen doesn't mention them specifically, I find background
> images generally to be strongly visually distracting as well. I far
> prefer *no* background color specification, or, if absolutely
> a white background. =20
> Nielsen warns that continued webpage design abuse will result in a
> revolt. Well...for animated gifs, I use a tool created by James
> called the Animate Gif Toggle, which prevents looping of gifs.
> are blocked by Junkbuster. I'm always thrown off-balance for a moment
> when I see someone's browser session which doesn't strip cruft, and
> how busy, crowded, and chaotic their view of the Web is.
> on Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 07:48:30PM +0000, Charles Patridge
> dge@PRODIGY.NET) wrote:
> > Netscape 6 and Frames
> > Hi SAS-Lers,
> > I just received my new version of Netscape 6.0 on CD and installed
> > my test machine.
> > It does not behave like the browser it did in prior versions. It
> > to have a real problem handling sites that use frames, including my
> > site www.sconsig.com. I have placed a technical call into Netscape
> > I do not expect much of any help.
> > Has anyone else experience similiar or other problems using Netscape
> > 6.0???
> > You might exercise caution when deciding to upgrade to Netscape 6.0
> > how this make impact any of your web base applications.
> > Regards,
> > Charles Patridge
> > --
> > Charles Patridge - PDPC, Ltd.
> > 172 Monce Road - Burlington, CT 06013 USA
> > Phone: 860-673-9278 or 860-675-9026
> > Email: Charles_S_Patridge@prodigy.net - Web: www.sconsig.com
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
> Karsten M. Self <email@example.com>
> Evangelist, Zelerate, Inc.
> What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5
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Charles Patridge - PDPC, Ltd.
172 Monce Road - Burlington, CT 06013 USA
Phone: 860-673-9278 or 860-675-9026
Email: Charles_S_Patridge@prodigy.net - Web: www.sconsig.com
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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