Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 16:54:27 GMT
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Subject: Re: SAS Salary/Rate Survey
I understand your question and concerns. And yes, hourly rate is not
the only criteria a client will base his decision upon when deciding to
hire you or someone else.
As Michael Davis so aptly put it, he tries to differentiate himself from
the rest of the pack and convinces his clients his skills and quality of
workmanship, and experience are key ingredients.
So do I. In fact, I will often direct my clients to competitors for
comparison and evaluations so I know they have good alternatives. And
often, these clients will come back and ready to sign deals, etc.
As for the annual salary and number of billed hours, I realize the
importance of knowing this information but it raises many questions
about the quality of the survey, makes it more complicated, and the
analysis more difficult to convey to everyone.
And not everyone's work style or lifestyle is the same. I may choose to
bill only 400 hrs per year (freelance), or bill 1000 hrs. But, the rate
(or project price) is really the bottom line.
And I may decide I only need $50000 USD per year to live the lifestyle I
so desire, whereas you may decide you need $80000 USD to live the
lifestyle you want.
What is important is knowing that as an independent SAS Consultant, you
can not always count on billing an exact number of hours per year at
whatever rate you want, and you must factor that into your needs or
As I stated before, I knew there would be issues, arguments, concerns,
etc. over the survey but at least it is a start and maybe another
survey can be done which will address other such issues. <grin>
I wish to thank everyone for completing the survey and I will make every
attempt to update the results as I receive more responses. So far, I
think I have about 115 so far. Still not sufficient to make universal
decisions but at least it is a start.
As I have more time (personal), I will solicit more responses from
various other SAS places but I need to do this slowly as the survey form
is not as automated as I would like it to be. And I have to handle each
reponse as a separate entry/file into my SAS program which reads my
I am glad you have stirred up such issues as it gets others (including
myself) thinking about such topics. And I am sure it is good food for
thought for new comers to the business of SAS consulting.
In article <firstname.lastname@example.org>,
email@example.com (Andreas Grueninger) wrote:
> >What do you want me to report? $110,000 as a SAS consultant, $30,000
> >a SAS Consultant, or $50/hr as a SAS Consultant??
> Exactly this what is asked in the survey. There is a question
> concerning the annual salary.
> The hourly rate is just one the criteria for "benchmarking" the
> situation of
> I see the complications but I see also that a hourly rate of US$ 110
> and 50% of available hours sold are less than 100% of available hours
> sold and a hourly rate between US$ 110 and 55.
> >Besides, when a SAS consultant starts an assignment the price is
> >determined by hourly rate - not what do you want as an annual salary,
> Not for me.
> The contracts are based on a time frame and a fixed amount or a hourly
> I am missing a question concerning the amount of sold hours per year.
> This is very basic too.
> In Germany beginners should know that at least DM 120.000 ~ US$ 60000
> must be earned per year to be able to exist as a freelancer.
> The calculation in the bebinning should include:
> - the hourly rate and the sum of sold hours per contract and
> - or the fixed amounts per contract and month/year
> Ingenieurbuero Grueninger
> Uhlbergstr. 15
> 72631 Aichtal (Germany)
> email: firstname.lastname@example.org
Charles Patridge - PDPC, Ltd.
172 Monce Road - Burlington, CT 06013 USA
Phone: 860-673-9278 or 860-675-9026
Email: Charles_S_Patridge@prodigy.net - Web: www.sasconsig.com
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